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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"I am hearing the same regards no relegation & 2 up !
I agree with your points about D.B & his patience with Duffy & also the back room staff.
Why do Leigh always have jobs for the boys ?
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It's like some dodgy local traders !
& what is Carvell doing ?
My concerns (other than the immediately obvious) are that *if* there is to be no relegation & Derek knows it, will he still stick with Duffy, even though J.D is way out of hus depth ? Also, if D.B knows there is no relegation, can he somehow convey this to potential signings for next season (without breaking confidence) ? Will available player's come to Leigh not knowing if Leigh will be in Super League ? It causes so many problems.'"
Mr Beaumont’s lack of communication is costing the club more than he understands. Even if does know what’s happening next season, this seasons showing is leaving Leigh with 1600 fans. Good luck to him getting the other 4K back should they remain in SL.
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If that is referring to the brown smelly stuff, then I agree right up to our necks in it!
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| But have we started recruiting for next season?
Why the secrecy? Fans of professional sport need positive news items to hang onto.
I read on another board that there is a need for player recruitment has to be conducted in secrecy. Wot just like it is in football? Or is it to fuel the feeling of self-importance of those in the ‘need to know’
Once the inevitable happens, is it expected that the current squad will extend their one year contracts? If so that will leave us in exactly the same position.
Lack of communication is making a bad situation worse.
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| The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.
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| Quote ="J7P1"The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.'"
I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.
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| Obviously another disappointing result for the boys must be tough for them. With just one specialist prop named in the team was always going to be a tough ask. Seems odd we are not loaning a couple of forwards unless no one is prepared to loan to fellow SL clubs. With regard to next season even if discussions are going on re a 14 or 2x10 leagues assume all owners will be blocked from disclosing info until there is an official announcement. If there is going to be a change clubs need to know now so they can recruit appropriately.
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| From my own personal point of view.
I'm not going to watch Leigh live currently because I can't justify £30 to myself but mainly because I can't be bothered with the current nonsense regulations due to the virus of unspecified origin. If everything returns to as it was, come 21st June, then I'd hope for a sensible drop in price as more fans can get in and be, well, fans.
I've seen terrible Leigh teams in the past, this has never deterred me from turning season after season but of course I've watched them for decades, churning out heavy loss after heavy loss isn't going to inspire newbies or really lapsed fans from returning.
Leyther14 has spelled it out, those that know what the plan is for next season have not and can not speak about it. Even speaking to my Wigan supporting mates, they are convinced there will be no relegation this season though. If there is, then I still don't know what the point of all this was.
If there isn't, then we can kick on come the autumn.
Though I still have this nagging doubt that even if no relegation has been promised there is a heavy asterisk hanging over it, which I fully expect the RFL to renege on when push comes to shove. I'll remain pessimistic until then.
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| It seems to me the Clubs silence at the moment is very worrying , in today’s League Express we are the ONLY SL club with no mention on any news , Derek has gone silent as has JD , nothing on players injury progress or missing players ,IE Gerrard ,and Wallace ,we play Wakey next and a loss looks inevitable , after 8 games our season looks over .
Nobody seems to know what’s going on , our fitnesss levels look woeful , we have a bigger back room staff than Boris has Cabinet Ministers , and our Coach although a really nice guy , clearly isn’t up to the job .
I’m sure everybody is worried , the silence is deafening ,30 quid entrance , no wonder not many want to attend .Cmon Leigh give the fans some news as to what is happening .
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| Quote ="J7P1"The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.'"
I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.'"
I doubt that would work in his favour. If P&R is put on hold. Retaining SL status supports his business, sponsorship and international commitments within his business. He wouldn’t get a better marketing deal from anywhere for the price.
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| Quote ="Deeeekos"From my own personal point of view.
I'm not going to watch Leigh live currently because I can't justify £30 to myself but mainly because I can't be bothered with the current nonsense regulations due to the virus of unspecified origin. If everything returns to as it was, come 21st June, then I'd hope for a sensible drop in price as more fans can get in and be, well, fans.
I've seen terrible Leigh teams in the past, this has never deterred me from turning season after season but of course I've watched them for decades, churning out heavy loss after heavy loss isn't going to inspire newbies or really lapsed fans from returning.
Leyther14 has spelled it out, those that know what the plan is for next season have not and can not speak about it. Even speaking to my Wigan supporting mates, they are convinced there will be no relegation this season though. If there is, then I still don't know what the point of all this was.
If there isn't, then we can kick on come the autumn.
Though I still have this nagging doubt that even if no relegation has been promised there is a heavy asterisk hanging over it, which I fully expect the RFL to renege on when push comes to shove. I'll remain pessimistic until then.'"
John Duffy was on radio manc post match and comments can also be seen in journal yesterday
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| Quote ="atomic"I doubt that would work in his favour. If P&R is put on hold. Retaining SL status supports his business, sponsorship and international commitments within his business. He wouldn’t get a better marketing deal from anywhere for the price.'"
Would agree with that as you say "If P&R is put on hold", and if it isn't Atomic what then?
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| Hope you guys pull through but don't kid yourselves about relegation being postponed. That rumour used to pop up in our neck of the woods whenever we were in the poop. There was never anything to it.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Hope you guys pull through but don't kid yourselves about relegation being postponed. That rumour used to pop up in our neck of the woods whenever we were in the poop. There was never anything to it.'"
The issue is Bully the secrecy around it all. Yes P&R is still on in the RFL model. As for SL all the chairman seem to be on non-disclosure. Mr Beaumont himself going into hiding. We’ve lost two players to Wigan out of an already depleted squad, and not one statement from the hierarchy.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Would agree with that as you say "If P&R is put on hold", and if it isn't Atomic what then?'"
Then at least we will have clarity we are back in the Championship. It can’t get any worse than what is happening now. If you think Mr Beaumont is after getting out, then that will leave Leigh short of funds. But the club cannot be held to ransom that way.
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| Quote ="atomic"The issue is Bully the secrecy around it all. Yes P&R is still on in the RFL model. As for SL all the chairman seem to be on non-disclosure. Mr Beaumont himself going into hiding. We’ve lost two players to Wigan out of an already depleted squad, and not one statement from the hierarchy.
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Michael Carter of Wakefield covered this on a Q&A a couple of weeks ago. No talks have even been considered about scrapping relegation, it will be happening this year.
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"VL , I’m in full agreement with you , but something needs to be done as soon as possible before it’s to late , JD needs to realise his job is on the line , and take action NOW no room for sentiment , he has to change things , Reynolds isn’t working at 6 , his days are numbered , look at other SL sixes , no comparison , we need a bit of luck with injuries , get some troops back, and try to put 80 minutes in not 40 .
The players are fighting for their lives as well , for me some are not SL standard , if McCarthey ,Helliwell, Sau ,and Wildie left the Club , they wouldn’t be in SL ,Cmon JD be ruthless , we need wins and fast , some fans took for granted wins against Wakey , Hull KR , Salford , and Hudds would happen , well they won’t , time is ticking by let’s act before it’s to late .'"
YES,I agree.The experienced S.L coach goes by the name of Shaun Wayne.Get rid of all the coaching staff and hangers on who he does not want,let him have his own people.Do it before its too late.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Michael Carter of Wakefield covered this on a Q&A a couple of weeks ago. No talks have even been considered about scrapping relegation, it will be happening this year.'"
Did he comment on a restructure?
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| Quote ="atomic"Did he comment on a restructure?'"
SL will be 12 teams next season and highly likely 12 the following. Any potential restructure would be planned in advance for season 2024 and linked into a broadcast deal starting that year.
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| Quote ="newshy38"YES,I agree.The experienced S.L coach goes by the name of Shaun Wayne.Get rid of all the coaching staff and hangers on who he does not want,let him have his own people.Do it before its too late.'"
Do you mean Shaun Wane the current England coach who’s preparing for a World Cup in a few months time.
I’ve a funny feeling that he may not be available, although I do also have a feeling that we have asked him to act in an advisory role and he couldn’t commit to that either
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"SL will be 12 teams next season and highly likely 12 the following. Any potential restructure would be planned in advance for season 2024 and linked into a broadcast deal starting that year.'"
Is this the same meeting that only a handful of SL chairman were privy too? Or just your own opinion?
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| Normally when we have injuries DB normally moves fast to loan or bring in extra players. Is this harder this year.... getting loans from other SL teams. Did that initially with Reynolds and Gelling and few loanees but that seems to have dried up. Seems like they only should have taken the gig if they had known they would be protected against relegation otherwise just the whipping boys and a wasted season.
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| Quote ="Leyther14"Normally when we have injuries DB normally moves fast to loan or bring in extra players. Is this harder this year.... getting loans from other SL teams. Did that initially with Reynolds and Gelling and few loanees but that seems to have dried up. Seems like they only should have taken the gig if they had known they would be protected against relegation otherwise just the whipping boys and a wasted season.'"
Exactly, looks like (although I might be wrong) we're not even trying to bring any short term loan signings in.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Exactly, looks like (although I might be wrong) we're not even trying to bring any short term loan signings in.'"
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| Quote ="atomic"Is this the same meeting that only a handful of SL chairman were privy too? Or just your own opinion?'"
It’s what was agreed on in the last SL meeting, no changes to the structure at this time.
Whilst i’ve no doubt some might want to change again the money just isn’t there for for 14 teams (my favoured option) or to fund two leagues of 10. With the new deal there isn’t really enough for 12 as it is.
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