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| Just listening to Sean Waynes' interview on BBC 1
I'd sign him up now if we could
I see a burning desire to succeed there, can't see it in our coaching staff.
Throw a 1 year mega contract at him. I'm sure he'd be a great acquisition
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| Quote ="silvertail-wolf"Just listening to Sean Waynes' interview on BBC 1
I'd sign him up now if we could
I see a burning desire to succeed there, can't see it in our coaching staff.
Throw a 1 year mega contract at him. I'm sure he'd be a great acquisition'"
I'm sure Wane will be straining at the leash to come to us for a 1 year contract?
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| Wane would be a great appointment provided people don't mind negative, albeit winning, rugby.
But as long as the WC is viable and going ahead, I don't think he'll budge.
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| Richard Agar? I'm being flippant but hell he's delivering the goods to be fair.
Controlled performance by Gale too - unflappable, good distribution, great kicking game, pushed his team round and won it for them. A marquee player by any definition.
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| Gale yes but not agar. No way would any of us accepted agar when Leeds took him on. Leeds are the exception to the rule for agar. Credit to him he's got them playing well, that's not been the case before though.
Wane I would accept. To be honest if prices instincts weren't to shut up shop and move away from what was working as soon as we lose a match i don't think we would be discussing this. His instinct seems to be negative and conservative trying to grind a result out and that has only ever worked for wire once in all the time I have watched them and that was last seasons cup final. A month ago we had the winning formula, lose the semi and we seem to have lost our bottle and I don't think price knows how to get us back to the fluent rugby we were playing. It's so frustrating.
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| Let's be honest though ,the semi final needed a Plan B of conservative ,up the middle rugby. It works on a decent pitch in decent weather conditions but our A game of throwing the ball about should have been put on the back burner.
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| INOUT Quote ="ninearches"Let's be honest though ,the semi final needed a Plan B of conservative ,up the middle rugby. It works on a decent pitch in decent weather conditions but our A game of throwing the ball about should have been put on the back burner.'"
True enough but the games after that? That's what I'm getting at.
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| We've not got the bully in us, I've said it a few times. Why win 60-0 when you can win 24-8 seems to be our mentality. A young Leeds team with a couple of oldies thrown in, we treat them with respect rather than demolishing and own them.
I'm not saying a full nasty tactic will win you matches, but when we look in our locker for the baseball bat, we've got a couple of feather dusters and a spud gun
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| Quote ="ninearches"Let's be honest though ,the semi final needed a Plan B of conservative ,up the middle rugby. It works on a decent pitch in decent weather conditions but our A game of throwing the ball about should have been put on the back burner.'"
Ironic really. For the majority of Price's tenure, our "A" game HAS been conservative, up the middle stuff even in perfect conditions.
Come to a semi final being played in a monsoon and we think we're the Harlem Globetrotters.
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| Finding the coach that has our ‘baseball bat’ doesn’t mean we have to play negative rugby though.
It means finding our win at any cost mentality. It means finding the ruthless edge that we lack.
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| No chance Wayne and his pit come to wire, guy bleeds cherry and white.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Richard Agar? I'm being flippant but hell he's delivering the goods to be fair.
Controlled performance by Gale too - unflappable, good distribution, great kicking game, pushed his team round and won it for them. A marquee player by any definition.'"
We never lost a game where he took over from TS while on breaks.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"We never lost a game where he took over from TS while on breaks.'"
Just for clarity, I repeat [iI was being flippant[/i. Agar is doing well at Leeds but he isn't ridiculed at Hull and Wakefield without reason.
Gale was great though, positively Patton-esque.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"
Gale was great though, positively Patton-esque.'"
I assume you mean Gale led the Leeds side superbly in a US General George Patton style and not in a mediocre Wire scrum half, Declan Patton one??..
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| Regardless of the merits of whether this would be the future, I just cannot see Wayne and Warrington joining forces.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Just for clarity, I repeat [iI was being flippant[/i. Agar is doing well at Leeds but he isn't ridiculed at Hull and Wakefield without reason.
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Different situations and also coaches learn from past experience.
I remember when we were first linked with Steve Price, after the Dean Pay/Garth Brennan links petered out, some people on here were calling him the "Aussie Agar".
Agar had an unhappy time in his first head coaching appointments....takes over Leeds who had been struggling at the bottom and wins the Challenge Cup in his second season.
Price had an unhappy time at St George-Illawarra....takes over Wire who had been struggling at the bottom and wins the Challenge Cup in his second season.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"
Price had an unhappy time at St George-Illawarra....takes over Wire who had been struggling at the bottom and wins the Challenge Cup in his second season.'"
Perhaps more an indication of the merits of winning a Challenge Cup, than any proof it makes a quality SUPER LEAGUE winning coach?
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| I think we need to be a bit more realistic about the current financial state of our game.
We and many other clubs will have to be careful before we start sacking staff (with big pay-offs) and throwing money at other coaches & players.
One or two on the forum are in dream land I'm afraid. In fact there are more than one or two.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I think we need to be a bit more realistic about the current financial state of our game.
We and many other clubs will have to be careful before we start sacking staff (with big pay-offs) and throwing money at other coaches & players.
One or two on the forum are in dream land I'm afraid. In fact there are more than one or two.'"
Agreed. All the more reason to be a little more prudent with our recruitment on the playing staff.
I don't imagine Inglis is coming for pocket money and a chance to sample the delights of the British weather. And don't get me started on however much we're paying Latu.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Agreed. All the more reason to be a little more prudent with our recruitment on the playing staff.
I don't imagine Inglis is coming for pocket money and a chance to sample the delights of the British weather. And don't get me started on however much we're paying Latu.'"
Even if it was cheap it's still too expensive and a waste of cap space. Regardless of current financial state you have to get the most out of the cap so there is absolutely no point in paying a player you have no intention of playing unless we have a ridiculous list of absentees.
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| The names Wane, Shaun Wane.
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| I know some find his eeh-bah-gum moaning a turn off but Powell's tenure at Cas appears to be coming to an end. Perhaps like TS, he has stayed too long and gone stale.
Going from Cas to Wires would be like switching your weekly shop from the food bank to Harrods but he remains something of an unlikeable personality.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"I know some find his eeh-bah-gum moaning a turn off but Powell's tenure at Cas appears to be coming to an end. Perhaps like TS, he has stayed too long and gone stale.
Going from Cas to Wires would be like switching your weekly shop from the food bank to Harrods but he remains something of an unlikeable personality.'"
Overrated imo
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"icon_smile.gif The names Wane, Shaun Wane.'"
Cheers Rogues, we'll get there eventually. Some of us have only recently realised "Thompkins" isn't an ex player of yours.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I think we need to be a bit more realistic about the current financial state of our game.
We and many other clubs will have to be careful before we start sacking staff (with big pay-offs) and throwing money at other coaches & players.
One or two on the forum are in dream land I'm afraid. In fact there are more than one or two.'"
I agree which is why a change if coach is the best way of making a big change with only changing one person. If we want different results next season with the same squad near enough we need a new coach?
However I would rather have price for another year if it ment that we get an am established coach, I would like the next one to have a similar signal of intent as the smith announcement did and if it means we have to wait then so be it.
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