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| Can’t see how you can change that. Only thing I would do is show them recordings of the Challenge Cup Final and lasts nights match. All I ask for is same intensity as last night.
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| Just hope Benny doesn't cop a ban for his knee movement.
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| Quote ="Wrath"Just hope Benny doesn't cop a ban for his knee movement.'"
Don’t think there was a lot in that.
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| Harsh on Livett and Atkins but I now wouldn't change it either.
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| Nobody deserves to lose their place. Even Ratch made amends for a dodgy 70 minutes with a great tip on pass leading to the try.
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| Do we need more off the bench?
Philbin did short minutes and Murdoch-Masilla was good but he’s not fit, GKing was ineffective and Patton didn’t play.
Would you have Atkins on the bench to bring a bit of pace and power on the middle for ten minutes at the end of each half? Would you play Patton (having two hookers on at once can speed up the PTB)?
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| I know we didn’t use Patton and some would go with another forward on the bench but I can’t get 2013 out my head.
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| Same team for me...agree with wrath its just like that bunch to shaft us and give Benny a one match ban....
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| Some involvement for Atkins, please. A player who scores tried in big games, is always good.
Also, remember 13's GF bench. 4 forwards. 2 backs stretchered off.
I don't see the point of naming Patton, if he's not going to get action until the 70th minute (bar an injury)
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| After watching last night I think it's fairly sure we could loose at least one to injury, or 10 mins on the side lines. They are masters of the dark arts at the PTB!
Bateman when making a tackle stands very close to the player as they stand and puts his hand on the back of there head, pushes down and as last night on a few occasions shots around, he is just niggles and pushes it to the limit. He got away with it all night didn't get penalised once. Don't start me on Olocklin !
How many times did a Wigan player get tackled where it was 50/50 yet they all file in and suck the ref into giving a penalty!
We mus play a back on the bench, just as an insurance policy.
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| IF all are fit then same team for me.
But concerned about BMMs knee.
Harsh on Atkins, and I'd like him as a sub but not at the expense of Patton.
Can easily seeing the goons injuring at least one player and losing a half back means we need cover.
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| Consensus so far seems people would like Atkins involved, I could only see that at the expense of G.King.
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| I dont think we should loose a forward from the bench though. GK may not have set the world alight but it couldn't be said he had a bad game. No one did.
Akauola shouldn't come in either. Not unless BMM isn't right, but then potentially you could argue for Atkins.
It does depend on what game plan Price comes up with.
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| Same team. All 17.
No room for Atkins and Livett.
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| Previous posters have said it all. Difficult to change a winning team, unless injury or the Disciplinary Committee come over all weird. Atkins is the conundrum, though.
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| First things first, make sure cooper is ok to go next week, I'm sure he will, but lets make sure
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| 2 days scratched eye. Fortunatly its during recouperation.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"First things first, make sure cooper is ok to go next week, I'm sure he will, but lets make sure'"
Wait, WHAT?!
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| Oh, Duck crossed.
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| Anyone else worried the RFL might see something in the Benny knees incident? Otherwise same 17 if at all possible.
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| I think atkins should be in the team. He is one of our big game players who more often than not produces in finals. But I don't think we ca. Win with only 2 props on the bench. If he is to play t King to miss out which will be harsh. I'm not sure I can see price dropping King at such a late stage tho.
I think had we been chasing the game Patton would have come on to the pitch, both Wigan and ourselves won our semis playing within ourselves and a player on the bench who can change the game. Not to have played him if we didn't need to was a smart move with one eye on the final
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| Last time we were in the Grand Final, Patton was taken off and we ended up losing. This time...
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| So as for the ref it’s going to be Hicks or Thaler, not Thaler for me.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"I think atkins should be in the team. He is one of our big game players who more often than not produces in finals. But I don't think we ca. Win with only 2 props on the bench. If he is to play t King to miss out which will be harsh. I'm not sure I can see price dropping King at such a late stage tho.
I think had we been chasing the game Patton would have come on to the pitch, both Wigan and ourselves won our semis playing within ourselves and a player on the bench who can change the game. Not to have played him if we didn't need to was a smart move with one eye on the final'"
Can't drop Toby, for me he is our best all round centre now. We could drop a second row for atkins to cover there and also our bank line should we need to reshuffle after a number of cannonballs. For example if ratch is taken out then Goodwin to FB and atkins to centre, one change needed. Pretty much the same with the entire backline. It would be harsh to drop anyone that played on Thursday really.
I'm not sure I'd change anything really, I'm not sure we have the players fit to, we need BMM to be fit though, he seems to have been struggling for a couple of months now but is possibly the best impact player we have had since Solomona.
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| There must have been a plan for early injury to an outside back v St Helens. My guess is that Hughes or Thompson would have gone to Centre and that Goodwin would move. This had to be so that G King could be included as an extra forward.
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Patton has to play in case we lose Clark early on.
My preference would be to bring in Atkins for G King. But I wouldn't think the plan that we had for the Semi will change. I think it's risky.
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