I'm hurting as bad as much as anyone. But this navel gazing is not good for us right now. We have a massive game in 6 days followed by a semi at home or away to Wigan. We have got to refocus put last night to one side and get on with winning our remaining games.

Like everyone else I'm stunned, astonished & bloody angry but we haven't got the time left in the season to do anything else than regroup & knuckle down. If we don't we'll get no where and win nothing.

I agree with this, last nights result means nothing when it comes to the results of our remaining matches, they are still there to be won. I know that the omens weren't good last night but it doesn't mean we can't win anything now of we make the grand final then anything can happen.

For what it's worth I thought Wigan were excellent last night when Down to 12 but our tackling and focus was dreadful whilst hill and Clark were off. I really hope curry is alright and sandow is back next week.

If you win next week you are home to St. Helens

I really do try to be a glass half full man and I take zero pleasure writing this.
But I just know that Tony Smith will not swallow his pride and make the necessary changes to fix the problem (Wingers on the bloody wing)..
I just think we'll come up short again..

Unfortunately I think this which is why I can't face going to Hull on Friday. Having only missed our 2nd trip to Cats this season can't face feeling the way I did after the Wigan defeat and having the long journey home.
I'll watch from the comfort of my couch where I can drink as much as I want to numb the pain. Hate not supporting the boys but it's self preservation.

Sorry for being all doom + gloom but I'm lumping on Hull for this 1 am afraid.No Currie,Sandhow + Benny will be a massive loss + this team will surely be shot of confidence after that debacle on Friday night.Just hope Smithy doesn't get Mr Pearce in for 1 of his Battle Of Britain speeches.

Sandow will not make a blind bit of difference to the result at Hull, he has been poor since his return from injury. He and Gidley go (creatively) missing for long periods in a game. TS has to put Penny outside Atkins or Evans/King. The team on Friday will be shot to pieces confidence wise.

We need a presence at hb.
We drop Patten and move Ratch to hb along with Gidley. That'll add size in the middle to deal with Houghton and Snyde. Penny in at left wing, offering height support to Russell at fb.

Yeah, Give Penny the start and then shoot him.

Oh did i miss read that last post!!! (Sorry)

Kevin (Mr Crab) Penny only knows how to run side ways. TS needs to give big Tom Linham a cuddle, tell him he's sorry and he loves him and offer him round to tea for spaghetti and meat balls.

KP's not the answer.

Not to worry though we’ve got Matty Blyth back next year and calamity Cooper.

Penny is not the best winger but far from what you describe. Have you watched him this season? Fact is we look a better team with penny in it. I agree with duckie ratchford in halves with Gidley, Russell to FB and penny on the wing.

Yep, he’s been fantastically average in attack, poor in defence and his positioning leaves a lot to be desired.

However i do agree with the mix around with Ratchford, Russell and Gidley but would like to see Patton get more game time thought he made a very good effort on Friday and should paired up with an experienced Gidley in the halves!

Let's completely fool the Hull game plan and mix the whole team up can't do any worse than the last 20 on Fri.

Patton should get his chance, but not within this 3 game period.
Pattons inclusion's ought to be throughout a season until he puts in a such a big game that he cannot be dropped on merit.
He hasn't done that so far this season.

There again..we know TS never rewards form. He will always bring in his click when they are returning back from injury, rather than have their presence of fitness put pressure upon the guy filling his boots, to keep him out.

Wow I bet your a a right ing hoot on the Terraces.............

look out for our new signings 'crapy cronk' and 'thickie thurston'.

You must've missed his performance at Catalans...

Sorry guys. I like and do try to be positive but common sense tells you we're gonna get banged.

Take Russell out of the team completely. He's an absolute liability. And for those screaming for him to be put at full back I'm not sure what you watch but it isn't rugby if you think that's where he should play. Can't catch, can't pass and can't defend.

We have a man out there who openly admits his preferred, and best position is fullback. and that's Gidley. Time to throw caution to the wind, because going out and playing the same as last week and we'll be embarrassed once more.

1. Gidley
2. Lineham
3. Evans
4. Atkins
20. Penny

6. Ratchford
26. Patton

8. Hill
9. Clark
10. Sims
29. Jullien (assuming Currie is out)
12. Hughes
13. Westerman

16. Dwyer
33. Bailey
18. G.King
25. Philbin

I need to say from the off I admire some of the sentiments shown on this thread.

I wish I could share them but find that impossible.

Leaving Wembley I felt disappointed but leaving the H.J. on Friday I felt extremely angry.

Now I travel a good distance to watch this team and that is my choice but that performance on Friday was, for a team of our supposed ambition, no way near good enough.

All I can see coming is defeat at Hull and defeat to St. Helens either home or away.

Does that make me a realist or a pessimist. I don't know.

If the above happens we will become this seasons team of ' nearly men.'

Nearly won the Challenge Cup, nearly won the League Leaders and nearly got to Old Trafford.

I hope I'm wrong with all this. God knows I really do.

I just can't see it though and my enthusiasm has taken a real battering.