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| Gareth O'Brien looks a player doesn't he? He was all class for Saints in his time with us and seems to be playing brilliantly at fullback for Salford. Was it perhaps a short sighted move from Warrington to not retain him? Possibly at the expense of the headless chicken that is Steffan Ratchford?
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.
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| GOB looked like a poor fullback to me, was hopeless in defence and repeatedly got smashed when bringing the ball back, putting his team on the back foot. I would take Stefan Ratchford over him any day of the week.
As for Ben Currie and world class? He is a good super league player at the moment but far from world class, I don't know if a single SL player is world class, give him a couple of years and see how he develops.
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| I thought O'Brien was adequate for Salford last night, kind of like the run of the mill performances he put in for us.
I don't want to sound disrespectful to the lad as he's a good pro but not a player to take you up a level. I really hope he goes well for Salford.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Gareth O'Brien looks a player doesn't he? He was all class for Saints in his time with us and seems to be playing brilliantly at fullback for Salford. Was it perhaps a short sighted move from Warrington to not retain him? Possibly at the expense of the headless chicken that is Steffan Ratchford?
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.'"
Yawn..Your trolling is usually a bit better than this sad-one
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Gareth O'Brien looks a player doesn't he? He was all class for Saints in his time with us and seems to be playing brilliantly at fullback for Salford. Was it perhaps a short sighted move from Warrington to not retain him? Possibly at the expense of the headless chicken that is Steffan Ratchford?
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.'" I am a big fan of Gareth O'Brien, but it has to be said that he was not doing what needed to be done at half-back, which was giving the team some direction. He is probably better suited to fullback wher he can add the odd touch of class without having the responsibility of playmaker-in-chief. Wire have different prioriries from their fullback. Russel contributes in a totally different way but is invaluable in what he does. Jack Johnson is next up if you don't count Gidley as a fullback. You can't keep every player under the salary cap rules so, on balance, letting him go was the right thing.
I diagree completely with Ron, though. I thought he did well last night. If he 'got smashed' all the more credit to him for coming back for more. His insinct to put his foot behind the line just as Lineham was bearing down on a ball that looked ready to stop in the box was real class under pressnure. Add to that he kicked well ( including a 40 20 ).
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| GOB was Salford's best player yesterday, if you thought he had a poor game...what were you watching?
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| I would have preferred to have kept O'Brien than Wheeler, but it seems to have been mutually agreed with Smith that O'Brien would develop better at another club with regular game time.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.'"
I suppose Saints are doing a dis-serve to Roby and Walmsley by not letting them go to the NRL too. If you were to let them go now then at least it would give plenty of time for Saints to prepare for the 'million pound game'.
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| I agree with Asgardian here.
At 60 mins I was thnking we've been stuffed by an ex-Wire player here.
Good performance from the lad but would have been behind Sandow, Gids and Ratch in the halves for us, so it was mutually beneficial for him to go to Salford.
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| Wouldn't get too worked up about Sad ones post. At the moment any half back would look class compared to their pair....
But Currie is class and if he carries on at the present rate of improvement he could be a stand out international in the future.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Gareth O'Brien looks a player doesn't he? He was all class for Saints in his time with us and seems to be playing brilliantly at fullback for Salford. Was it perhaps a short sighted move from Warrington to not retain him? Possibly at the expense of the headless chicken that is Steffan Ratchford?
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.'"
Very, very poor attempt at trolling.
Keep GOB when we've brought in Gids and Sandow? I like the guy but he's exactly where he belongs at a side like Salford and I wish him all the best there, but he had no future here other than a regular spot in the reserves team.
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| It may be worth noting that we have 1st option of GOB in two years when his current contract with Salford expires. Personally I think by then he would be a suitable replacement for Gidley when he retires.
Currie very much reminds me of Sculthorpe when he broke through at the wire.
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| Just a note... Sculthorpe was Warrington captain at 17. Currie is already 21.
He is a great player but Scully was something else entirely. It was a sad day when we had to sell him to keep our club going.
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| Scully was a big fish in a small pond though.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Scully was a big fish in a small pond though.'"
We did have some very big underperforming fish.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Gareth O'Brien looks a player doesn't he? He was all class for Saints in his time with us and seems to be playing brilliantly at fullback for Salford. Was it perhaps a short sighted move from Warrington to not retain him? Possibly at the expense of the headless chicken that is Steffan Ratchford?
Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.'"
The Melbourne Storm thought they had Currie but he signed a long term deal with Warrington a day after he was due to sign for them.
They aren't too happy with Currie's manager.
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| Quote ="Ron"GOB looked like a poor fullback to me, was hopeless in defence and repeatedly got smashed when bringing the ball back, putting his team on the back foot. I would take Stefan Ratchford over him any day of the week.
As for Ben Currie and world class? He is a good super league player at the moment but far from world class, I don't know if a single SL player is world class, give him a couple of years and see how he develops.'"
No one in SL is world class???
Chris Hill
Alex Walmsley
James Roby
Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins (Maybe)
These players could walk into almost every team in SL and the NRL.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Just a note... Sculthorpe was Warrington captain at 17. Currie is already 21.
He is a great player but Scully was something else entirely. It was a sad day when we had to sell him to keep our club going.'"
I don't suppose we will be able to compare the two until Currie hangs his boots up. But Currie, while not captain, is 21 and has made just shy of 100 first-team appearances already. That's almost 1/3 of Sculthorpe's career club appearances, and he has over 1/3 of Sculthorpe's try total (43 v 113). The trajectory is certainly impressive.
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| Quote ="just_browny"I don't suppose we will be able to compare the two until Currie hangs his boots up. But Currie, while not captain, is 21 and has made just shy of 100 first-team appearances already. That's almost 1/3 of Sculthorpe's career club appearances, and he has over 1/3 of Sculthorpe's try total (43 v 113). The trajectory is certainly impressive.'"
The comparison with Sculthorpe's appearances is enlightening. You do wonder whether the strain on the body of carrying Warrington's pack when only 17 impacted on his career's longevity.
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"No one in SL is world class???
Chris Hill
Alex Walmsley
James Roby
Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins (Maybe)
These players could walk into almost every team in SL and the NRL.'"
Do you regularly watch the NRL? Those players could definitely get games in the NRL, Hill would even be a good NRL forward. But none of them would be a top 3-5 player for their position. Which is what I would class as world class, Walmsley got absolutely dominated by the Rooster forwards, whose best forward wasn't even playing.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The Melbourne Storm thought they had Currie but he signed a long term deal with Warrington a day after he was due to sign for them.
They aren't too happy with Currie's manager.'"
He had at least two years left on his contract at Warrington when it was renewed. I'd expect the same to happen again.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"Very, very poor attempt at trolling.
Keep GOB when we've brought in Gids and Sandow? I like the guy but he's exactly where he belongs at a side like Salford and I wish him all the best there, but he had no future here other than a regular spot in the reserves team.'"
Trolling? I like O'Brien, I thought Saints should have signed him, he'd definitely have improved us. You've signed Gidley, but he's got 1 or 2 seasons in him at best. Ratchford for me hasn't kicked on and I think perhaps, maybe, (I.e. not definite, just a suggestion) Wire got that call wrong.
On Currie, again, don't see the problem with praising him. He's class, utter class.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Trolling? I like O'Brien, I thought Saints should have signed him, he'd definitely have improved us. You've signed Gidley, but he's got 1 or 2 seasons in him at best. Ratchford for me hasn't kicked on and I think perhaps, maybe, (I.e. not definite, just a suggestion) Wire got that call wrong.
On Currie, again, don't see the problem with praising him. He's class, utter class.'"
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Also, what a start to the season Ben Currie has had! How long is his Wire contract? =#FF0080I think you are doing him a massive dis-service in not letting an NRL side take him now, he's world class and needs to be playing over there, not bullying semi-pro standard SL sides.
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imo, I'm happy for both sides that he's gone. His career was literally meandering in a Wire jersey. He wasn't poor. He wasn't great. Just the dictionary definition of OK. For those who represent the GO'B fan club, put yourself in this situation. He's in (for example) a Castleford jersey, and it's a Friday night Sky game. I bet there's not many saying "Corrrr, I wish he was in a Wire jersey". Thought not.
He's gone, and he's now usurped Salford's last season's "bright young thing" Evalds, to the FB jersey.
We win/Salford win.
Currie
World class? You're 'avin' a laaarrrff, intcha?
SL class, yes. World? Ask me in 4 year's time.
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| I think Currie is the first Wire Academy player for an age who has the potential to be more than just a decent SL player, and his showing on Thursday in the sense of not being intimidated is a step in the right direction.
I accept however that the risks of winding up these days are rather less than in the Boyd era.
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