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| So what happens after the Cas game assuming we make the top 8?
Do all the teams go into a fresh league table on 0 points or just carry on but in the mini league in our current league positions and points. And how are the fixtures scheduled, is it randomly luck of the draw style or pre detirmined based on teams positions?
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| I think points are carried over so teams keep their advantage the top four have four home and three away games, there are points to be played for so although it would be difficult for lower teams to make the four it would not be impossible, the eventual top four being a straight 1v4 2v3 winner to the final.
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Quote ="Wirefan"So what happens after the Cas game assuming we make the top 8?
Do all the teams go into a fresh league table on 0 points or just carry on but in the mini league in our current league positions and points. And how are the fixtures scheduled, is it randomly luck of the draw style or pre detirmined based on teams positions?'"
www.superleague.co.uk/rlnewera
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Quote ="Wirefan"So what happens after the Cas game assuming we make the top 8?
Do all the teams go into a fresh league table on 0 points or just carry on but in the mini league in our current league positions and points. And how are the fixtures scheduled, is it randomly luck of the draw style or pre detirmined based on teams positions?'"
www.superleague.co.uk/rlnewera
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| Cheers WazzaWire if only I'd have thought of that, so yes top eight carry points over I wasn't sure, the qualifiers teams start on zero for obvious reasons.
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| Middle 8 start on zero points
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| That is right Wiredeano middle 8 is the Qualifiers super 8, well they tried their best to confuse me and succeeded.
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| [url=http://gazshaw.co.uk/rleights/This May Help[/url
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"[url=http://gazshaw.co.uk/rleights/This May Help[/url'"
Cheers The Perry Boy it clarifies a few things.
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| Quote ="Wiredeano"Middle 8 start on zero points'"
They do indeed. Would be a bit unfair on Wakey to start the 8s 30 points behind Leigh and Bradford!
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| No offence bud but the format's been out for almost a year, if you don't know the basics of it now you're a lost cause.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"No offence bud but the format's been out for almost a year, if you don't know the basics of it now you're a lost cause.'"
Did anyone understand the playoffs when they first started?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Did anyone understand the playoffs when they first started?'"
I still don't
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| I've no issue with the middle 8 format but the super 8s needs to be reviewed at the end of this season. It looks to be virtually impossible for teams 5-8 to break into the play offs with the carry over off league points.
I would think a system the rewards the highest finisher with all home games and so on and the 8th team looses all home rights, but every team plays the 7 games off scratch so giving all teams a chance to qualify for top 4.
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| But then we'll have the same whinging about games before the split meaning nothing. If a team can't make the top four having made the top eight then you don't deserve to be in there do you?
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| Agreed GHF
So it makes a mockery of the system. Why bother playing out the mini league at all? Theres little more than a pay day formality with each game.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I've no issue with the middle 8 format but the super 8s needs to be reviewed at the end of this season. It looks to be virtually impossible for teams 5-8 to break into the play offs with the carry over off league points.
I would think a system the rewards the highest finisher with all home games and so on and the 8th team looses all home rights, but every team plays the 7 games off scratch so giving all teams a chance to qualify for top 4.'"
Eh? So you finish round 23 in fifth, maybe level on points or a couple behind fourth, and you don't think it's do-able to overhaul?? Ok, so you've 3 home games, and the team above have got 4, but that's pretty likely in the old style seasons, with 7 games to go!
You're alternative suggestion sees one team playing 7 home games, whilst one plays 7 away-easy to manage season tickets for that system.
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| At least off scratch, a team from 8th ranking with 7 away games has a chance at a play off spot.
If the team starts the super 8s in 8th and 12 points off 4th, that team is effectively playing dead rubbers from the first defeat.
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| I suppose if a team can keep its players reasonably fresh & injury free & finish say 8th & then manage to beat the teams above then there is no reason why they couldn't become champions by being able to win the seven games that matter. That format suddenly sounds very familiar,but Leeds obviously haven't thought of that this season because they look like finishing top.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I suppose if a team can keep its players reasonably fresh & injury free & finish say 8th & then manage to beat the teams above then there is no reason why they couldn't become champions by being able to win the seven games that matter. That format suddenly sounds very familiar,but Leeds obviously haven't thought of that this season because they look like finishing top.'"
9a just what I thought as I wrote the post. Sounds like the top 5 inaugural thing.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"No offence bud but the format's been out for almost a year, if you don't know the basics of it now you're a lost cause.'"
Or the format is a dud
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| When first announced I must admit it did seem a bit OTT/weird/complicated. Now that its almost here and we are talking about it in terms of who (currently) would be playing for what it makes sense. Now that the "table" is clearer the whole predetermining of what position plays what position (home or away) even the following 7 weeks makes sense.
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