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| I am disappointed with the club for not reducing the cost of the tickets for the play off matches especially for season ticket holders as some other clubs have done. I cant see a sell out and can see a dissappointing wire turnout just when we need the support.
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| So what you think is that the league fixtures that everybody has said all year are meaningless, and teams aim to finish 4th or 5th rather than 1st, should be priced higher than the playoffs?
Other teams have to do what they have to do. Not all of them have the best fans in the league.
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| The attendance next Saturday will be lower than the league fixture between the two teams was, but the main reason is the play off system itself is too overblown creating an unappetising first round for the top four teams.
We know Wire will play two home games in this series, and possibly three games in total, prior to the final itself. We also know our continued progression doesn't depend on whether or not we win next week. Therefore plenty of people will save their money for bigger games to come.
The week three fixtures and obviously the Grand Final sell themselves no problem. They're the truly big games. The week one fixtures though aren't as big as they should be, and the week two fixtures (again from a top four teams perspective) feel like an inconvenient punishment for week one defeat, so lots of fans don't fancy the added cost of them either.
For me they need to reduce the number of play off games (which should happen anyway in 2015 as I assume a reduction to 12 teams will see us revert to a top six format), and also eliminate games where you can't be knocked out. If you know you'll have at least one more game to attend whether you win or lose it makes it a lot easier to decide to skip the first one.
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| Incidentally, as for the prices themselves, I personally think the week one fixtures for all teams should be free to season ticket holders, even if that does mean full price for the rest of us. If someone isn't used to paying week in week out, but is already thinking about the cost of next year's season ticket, they might not fancy £20 on the door two or three weeks in a row. Including the week one games would reward them for season long loyalty and boost the attendances.
I appreciate RL is a reasonably good value for money sport compared to some others - football in particular where ticket prices are concerned - but if a team plays in all three play off weeks plus the Grand Final, as we did last year, it will cost roughly £90 for an adult to attend all four games (based on 3X£20, and £30 for the final). For those in the North/East Stands and looking for better seats at Old Trafford it is significantly higher, but you can argue they choose those areas and there are cheaper alternatives.
£90 in a short time (probably all coming out of one month's wage packet) is a lot of money though, and as I say that's for one adult. If you're taking kids then you've got added costs, including doubling your outlay for the final because there are no concessions other than family tickets which might not be suitable depending on how many you have.
No one will want to miss the Grand Final, and most regular supporters will want to be there in week three too, but the first game in particular, and second if it's in week two, are easy misses for those who struggle to afford the lot. I'll be at all our play off games this year but I consider myself fortunate to be able to say that at this stage. Plenty of people will struggle to find the money, and there's nothing wrong with questioning why more isn't done to help these people, especially with the low attendances at these games in previous years being there on record for all to see.
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| I'm consistently amazed by rugby league supporters who implore their clubs to spend money on top players to reignite interest in the game, and then baulk at the idea of having to pay to watch their club's biggest games of the season. Tight sods.
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| Quote ="just_browny"I'm consistently amazed by rugby league supporters who implore their clubs to spend money on top players to reignite interest in the game, and then baulk at the idea of having to pay to watch their club's biggest games of the season. Tight sods.'"
Not so often that you and I agree, but you're bang on with that statement.
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| Does the club or the RFL set the prices for the play-offs?
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| Quote ="just_browny"I'm consistently amazed by rugby league supporters who implore their clubs to spend money on top players to reignite interest in the game, and then baulk at the idea of having to pay to watch their club's biggest games of the season. Tight sods.'"
1) A play off game where you cannot be knocked out can hardly be classed as one of the "biggest games of the season"
2) There's a difference between being "tight" and simply not having the disposable income to afford up to four extra games in successive weeks - if you were in that situation I'm sure you'd look at the overall picture rather than spending all your money in week one and two
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| Quote ="just_browny"I'm consistently amazed by rugby league supporters who implore their clubs to spend money on top players to reignite interest in the game, and then baulk at the idea of having to pay to watch their club's biggest games of the season.'"
Spot on Browny, you've posted what I have been thinking.
People want us to sign players like Billy Salter & Benji Marshall and then moan like anything at paying £19 to see 2 of the best teams in British Rugby League in a play off game.
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| I wonder if this reflects the poor standard of rugby league on offer these days.
In wendyball people will pay far more than that because for all its faults, the Premier League puts out some of the world's elite players and you get exciting entertainment. You've just had Mesut Ozil coming in, one of the most exciting players in the world. SL would be like this if clubs were signing Benji Marshall, Billy Slater etc.
When you have average players and a poor product like Super League, fans won't want to shell out much for it.
Alternatively I might be missing something and actually its a great sport just the RFL isn't marketing it enough to convince the fans that its great.
Why would you spend 80 minutes watching Warrington when you could spend that time in the pub watching football and probably spend less than the £19 on a round of drinks for your mates?
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| Tbh im fed up with hearing about how season ticket holders should get preferential treatment, NO im not one purely because i work a stupid shift pattern so can not always make every game some games ive used holidays to attend.As for other non season ticke holders maybe they can not afford to pay for a season ticket in one go or even use the credit system that the club offers this doesnt mean they miss some games but overall will spensd more than a season ticket holder if they go to every home game,end of the day you know what you are entering into when you choose to be a season ticket holder or not so dont bother bleating about it when you have to pay the same as everyone else.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Tbh im fed up with hearing about how season ticket holders should get preferential treatment, NO im not one purely because i work a stupid shift pattern so can not always make every game some games ive used holidays to attend.As for other non season ticke holders maybe they can not afford to pay for a season ticket in one go or even use the credit system that the club offers this doesnt mean they miss some games but overall will spensd more than a season ticket holder if they go to every home game,end of the day you know what you are entering into when you choose to be a season ticket holder or not so dont bother bleating about it when you have to pay the same as everyone else.'"
I'm amazed that anybody could possibly believe that season ticket holders shouldn't receive beneficial treatment.
For so many reasons the commitment that season ticket holders make to the club allows a club to not only function but to exist.
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| I'm assuming that post was aimed at me, given that (I think) I'm the only person in the thread that had mentioned letting season ticket holders into a play off game as part of their season ticket.
For the record I'm not a season ticket holder either, and I won't be next season even if they were to announce in advance that they were going to take up my suggestion. Hope that helps.
It would undoubtedly improve the attendance next Saturday if it happened, although I appreciate the club will gain more from 10,000 people buying tickets (or paying in) than they would from 6,000 buying them and another 6,000 getting in at no extra charge. That would be the argument against from a business perspective, but I still think it would be a good idea from a supporter's perspective.
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This is a good idea from Huddersfield.
The Giants have also launched a new initiative called SKY SWAP where any home Super League game that is moved for Sky TV (change of day) after the start of the season will see Season Ticket holders eligible for discounts off a 2015 Season Ticket. Terms and conditions apply.
www.giantsrl.com/matchday/2014_season_tickets
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This is a good idea from Huddersfield.
The Giants have also launched a new initiative called SKY SWAP where any home Super League game that is moved for Sky TV (change of day) after the start of the season will see Season Ticket holders eligible for discounts off a 2015 Season Ticket. Terms and conditions apply.
www.giantsrl.com/matchday/2014_season_tickets
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| No its not my intention to aim my post at anyone ever,if ive got a beef with anyone at any time id pm them if you think it was aimed at you then i aplogise.my post is just my opinion regarding season ticket holders and what they believe they should get, as for them being more loyal why is that ive been following the wire for more than 40 years and never been a season ticket holder does this mean im not loyal.
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| I hope sky are stumping up the cash for the refund that Hudds have offered to their fans .
May be a solution to the lack of enthusiasm for the take up of play off tickets due to cash flow problems in home up & down the country could be for the clubs to come up with a system of easy payments to pre buy play off tickets right up to the final with the proviso that any unused tickets can be used towards the cost of next years season tickets or given in vouchers for pay on the day fans.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Spot on Browny, you've posted what I have been thinking.
People want us to sign players like Billy Salter & Benji Marshall and then moan like anything at paying £19 to see 2 of the best teams in British Rugby League in a play off game.'"
Well its not 19 pound in the north stand is it..... there will be loads of spaces in the seated areas. Just at the time when they need a big crowd to create a good atmosphere. A bit of good will and common sense would increase the crowd. However a lot will opt to watch on sky me included who has been to the majority of home and away games this year.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Spot on Browny, you've posted what I have been thinking.
People want us to sign players like Billy Salter & Benji Marshall and then moan like anything at paying £19 to see 2 of the best teams in British Rugby League in a play off game.'"
Ps that billy salter is rubbish... he keeps throwing it over his shoulder.
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| I'm a non-season ticket holder because it's a 300 mile round trip for me every time I see the Wire at home.
I watch Wire games on Sky and go when they're not on.
As has been said elsewhere, if you compare Wendyball entrance prices with RL it's a no brainer, so I've no time for people who whinge about ticket prices.
A season ticket really is absurdley cheap in the full scheme of things.
I appreciate that times are tough and for those on low salary/wage it's a big commitment and I'm not in that position but many years ago I was and I actually cut back on other things (drinking, petrol - cycles to work etc) to fund that.
Should season ticket holders get preferential treatment for play off games?
My view - yes to be able to buy them in advance, but no for 'discounts'.
I'll go to every playoff match Wire/Wolves are in even though it's on Sky because I just want to be there.
It's only the last couple of years we've managed it.
Those 'newer' fans perhaps expect it. I don't.
Just my view.
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| As well as season ticket benefits, could they not create some sort of members club in which you get... say, that weeks game on DVD, a programme, discount vouchers, news letters, match reports on all age groups, events happening around town etc etc, pay a monthly subscribtion to it and it affords you the same benefits as a season ticket holder?
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| On these sort of threads, there's always a comparison with football prices. I don't think people realise that you can get into a number of games for a number of clubs cheaper than our North Stand.
For games that might struggle to sell, some clubs drop ticket prices. My mate has been to a number of City games for £25 for him and his lad. The last few United games I've been to were £26/27. The same price as a North Stand ticket on Saturday.
There's always the argument about if we want to sign the best players, we have to pay the price. If that is the case, why not charge £40 a game? The answer to that is we wouldn't sell many tickets at that price because everyone has a price where they will decide to stop going and if there's a crowd of 7 or 8,000 on Saturday, it shows that £19 or £27 to sit down is too much for 3 or 4000 people. Also we're not and are not going to sign Slater or Marshall, so the argument is pointless.
It all comes down to whether we want a full house for a play off game or we want to make as much money as we can, which is shared between all play off clubs anyway. I think it should be a compromise in between.
I'm seriously thinking about not going on Saturday and keeping my £24 and whatever I usually spend in my back pocket.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"
It would undoubtedly improve the attendance next Saturday if it happened, although I appreciate the club will gain more from 10,000 people buying tickets (or paying in) than they would from 6,000 buying them and another 6,000 getting in at no extra charge. That would be the argument against from a business perspective, but I still think it would be a good idea from a supporter's perspective.'"
Fairly certain the RFL gets the gate money from playoffs, so from a club point of view, the more the merrier, regardless of what they pay to get in. ...... The club benefits from the merchandise/food/drink the extra people in the ground buy from them ....... and if they're sat at home/in the pub, it's costing the club money.
My biggest gripe has never been the cost of playoff tickets; it's that the first playoff game for the top 4 is a complete waste of time - just an extra chance to pick up injuries.
After the GF last year I felt gutted because we had lost, but not ripped off as I'd seen a great game of rugby .... After the first playoff game against Saints at the HJ I was fuming because it felt like I'd been charged to watch a training session!
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| There is an alternative, not getting into the play-offs. Can you imagine some of the posts on here if we didn't make it.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"There is an alternative, not getting into the play-offs. Can you imagine some of the posts on here if we didn't make it.'"
"Thank christ we never got into the playoffs. At least I won't need to spend £19 for the next 3 weeks in some meaningless playoff games............"?????????
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| Bog brush how lucky are you ? There are some people on here who think we have already played 27 meaningless warm up games !
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