Pretty much guaranteed 3rd now.

so thats them not going old trafford along with ourselves...personally dont know what all the fuss is about theses games are only friendlies the proper stuff starts next month

What a load of rubbish. Did you watch the game tonight? If the proper stuff starts next month then why don't people turn up to watch it?

Agree, like last night both sides gave everything they had to win the game. I'm fed up of our own fans talking the game down.

Really good viewing tonight.

All I need is Wigan to get lose tomorrow and I will feel a whole lot better after last night.

It wouldnt be the first time that all our rivals have messed up.................the same weekend that we screwed up.

Rubbish, you evidently didn't watch the game. If it was as simple as coasting for 27 rounds into fifth then winning the play off series, why has it only ever been done by one club?

Tanking for 4th spot? Teams relishing a trip to a quarter filled John Smiths stadium.

I'm not saying I'm convinced by the theory or owt, but the current play-off system has only been in place for two years and in those two years Leeds were the team that finished fifth both times.

Another team without a Plan B.

Good post. What is the point of being a so called RL fan when all you do is talk the game down. All this rubbish has only started over the past two seasons when Leeds have won the GF from fifth spot.

The top 8 system was introduced in 09, Leeds won it that year from first. The year after that Wigan won from the same position.

Pies now beaten 22-8 at Catalans with a fairly strong side., so everyone is in exactly the same position as when the weekends round started.

Another team with no Plan B.

Looking on the Wigan Site at the moment they don't appear to have a Plan A. From being almost dead certs to win the LLS about 6 weeks ago they are now looking like 4th place.

Who is Shane Warne blaming this week ?

we lose and its the end of the world and we wont get to ot playing like that so leeds and wigan wont be going either..so really that leaves cats v sts final...still say it get our half backs out on the field and we will play leeds in the final again..some people on here over react to a defeat...it happens deal with it

After some of your other posts today I find this one hard to believe.

He blamed the officials and said the game was too slow. Then, somewhat perversely, he said that Wigan's wrestle didn't go well. If their wrestle had gone well then the game would have been even slower. Apparently it was extremely hot, surely it couldn't be hotter than when we played there in 2011.

Michael Clarke?

Yes, but this year Saints look like being 5th, and Giants 1st ...... and plenty of bookies out there who'll take any bet that says one of them will win the GF.

There have been 3 teams in the league who, when facing each other, have produced rugby that has scared the bejeebus out of every other team ..... and once they had secured places in the top 4, they've simply gone through the motions, rotating squad players and trying out different patterns of play - often still winning, but always at a reduced intensity ......