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Paul Wood has been dual registered with Swinton, and will play on Sunday against Workington along with Tyrone McCarthy and James Laithwaite. Seems my predictions about this warped new system and its effects on the Championship are being realised. www.swintonlionsrlc.co.uk/compon ... ngton.html
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Paul Wood has been dual registered with Swinton, and will play on Sunday against Workington along with Tyrone McCarthy and James Laithwaite. Seems my predictions about this warped new system and its effects on the Championship are being realised. www.swintonlionsrlc.co.uk/compon ... ngton.html
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| Wood? How bizarre
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| I guess the other six will be on season long loans at Swinton and will be loaned back to Warrington for a minimum of a month if required.
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| This must be tricky for the Swinton coach and the team. In some ways it would seem great to suddenly get three decent players added to your squad but it must be a bit de-motivating for their Swinton based players. Funny system this.
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| If I was a Swinton player I would jump at the chance to line-up alongside a someone of Paul Wood's stature in the game.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"This must be tricky for the Swinton coach and the team. In some ways it would seem great to suddenly get three decent players added to your squad but it must be a bit de-motivating for their Swinton based players. Funny system this.'"
It is a vicious circle really. The board of directors at Swinton only really have one ambition- to get a new ground in the town. Use of the new dual registration system offers the chance to cut costs. Steve McCormack is paid to get results- he can't say no to someone like Paul Wood. Meanwhile a Swinton player misses out on his appearance fee, winning bonus (if any) and game time. I have wrote at length on here about why the system is flawed and destroys the integrity of the Championship, so I won't go into it again.
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| Quote ="nathanwood7"If I was a Swinton player I would jump at the chance to line-up alongside a someone of Paul Wood's stature in the game.'"
Even if it meant you weren't actually playing that week?
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| Quote ="nathanwood7"If I was a Swinton player I would jump at the chance to line-up alongside a someone of Paul Wood's stature in the game.'"
Do the maths, they don't get special dispensation to have an extra man on the field!
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"This must be tricky for the Swinton coach and the team. In some ways it would seem great to suddenly get three decent players added to your squad but it must be a bit de-motivating for their Swinton based players. Funny system this.'"
4 of Swintons playing squad recently moved to Australia for a RL playing holiday, quite possibly as a result of this system , they are looking to play PT over there
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| As a Swinton fan i am pleased as punch to see someone like wood turning out for us. If it upsets the current squad then you have to question their mental attitude as i dont want Swinton to be seen as easy money for average players.
Lets face it if people were really bothered about the state of the game then P and R would be brought back. As it stands nobody cares about the lower leagues, unless they support a team in them. We are just playing the system.
Anyway whats the chances of lending us Moz and Briers for the end of the season playoff games.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"It is a vicious circle really. The board of directors at Swinton only really have one ambition- to get a new ground in the town. Use of the new dual registration system offers the chance to cut costs. Steve McCormack is paid to get results- he can't say no to someone like Paul Wood. Meanwhile a Swinton player misses out on his appearance fee, winning bonus (if any) and game time. I have wrote at length on here about why the system is flawed and destroys the integrity of the Championship, so I won't go into it again.
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Keep banging away as far as I am concerned as I completely agree. And the rules for this system are being made up as they go along. The most recent are that there will be a notional cap value for all S L players who play in the Championship ( set below their actual value) to ensure the CC clubs don't exceed their own cap in the year.
There are no less than 9 Wire players in the Swinton 19. How demoralising is that for a Swinton supporter ?, or player for that matter. Widnes have DR'd their entire squad with Workington, but I am assuming that there will still be a max of 5 players that are allowed to actually play.
Since Currie and Saltonstall have not been named, I assume they will be in the U19 game vs Cas tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Barnie"As a =#BF0000Warrington reserve team fan i am pleased as punch to see someone like wood turning out for us. If it upsets the current squad then you have to question their mental attitude as i dont want Swinton to be seen as easy money for average players.
Lets face it if people were really bothered about the state of the game then P and R would be brought back. As it stands nobody cares about the lower leagues, unless they support a team in them. =#FF0000We are just playing the system.
Anyway whats the chances of lending us Moz and Briers for the end of the season playoff games.
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No , the system is playing YOU
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| Quote ="nathanwood7"If I was a Swinton player I would jump at the chance to line-up alongside a [usomeone of Paul Wood's stature in the game[/u.'"
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| I don't see why this is seen as such a disaster. Works well in Aus, players playing Toyota Cup while waiting in the wings of the first team. Keeps players fit, gives them a chance to prove themselves, more interest in the Swinton games getting more people in... everyone's a winner. Swinton should do the same with their lesser members of the squad and lend them to a conference club
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I don't see why this is seen as such a disaster. Works well in Aus, players playing Toyota Cup while waiting in the wings of the first team. Keeps players fit, gives them a chance to prove themselves, more interest in the Swinton games getting more people in... everyone's a winner. Swinton should do the same with their lesser members of the squad and lend them to a conference club'"
Tell me , what amount of money would you pay to watch another clubs reserve players ?
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I don't see why this is seen as such a disaster. Works well in Aus, players playing Toyota Cup while waiting in the wings of the first team. Keeps players fit, gives them a chance to prove themselves, more interest in the Swinton games getting more people in... everyone's a winner. Swinton should do the same with their lesser members of the squad and lend them to a conference club'"
So these ' lesser ' players , they earn how much for not playing for Swinton ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Tell me , what amount of money would you pay to watch another clubs reserve players ?'"
I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So these ' lesser ' players , they earn how much for not playing for Swinton ?'"
That is an agreement that needs to be made by The RFL, while they are not paying 9 of the 19 in there squad this week, the money can go somewhere. Maybe instead of pay as you play deals, they should get contracted with a salary from Swinton.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
As a Warrington fan who also goes and watches Leigh quite a lot, I would say it has the opposite effect.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Quote ="Starbug"Tell me , what amount of money would you pay to watch another clubs reserve players ?'"
I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
Really? Put yourself in their position: could you imagine if we were in the championship, and Wigan came along and joined up with us, then as we enter a new season our squad is half-full of their reserves/kids. I think if I were them, I'd bemoan our fall from grace, criticise the RFL for allowing such a cock-eyed situation, and say f@ck it, I ain't watching Wigan's reserves play in P&B.
As I see it at the moment, Swinton don't have their own identity; they're just our feeder club. For a team with their history that saddens me deeply.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
I asked you a simple question , how much would you pay to watch another clubs reserves ?
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"As a Warrington fan who also goes and watches Leigh quite a lot, I would say it has the opposite effect.'"
As a Leigh fan who no longer attends any matches , this just gives me another reason not to attend in the future
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I don't see why this is seen as such a disaster. Works well in Aus, players playing =#BF0000Toyota Cup while waiting in the wings of the first team. Keeps players fit, gives them a chance to prove themselves, more interest in the Swinton games getting more people in... everyone's a winner. Swinton should do the same with their lesser members of the squad and lend them to a conference club'"
They get large crowds of fans ? , how much do they pay to watch ?
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
Perhaps I am old fashioned, but I simply wouldn't view the team as 'mine' anymore. I would be unable to identify with them. It would be similar to combining two teams into one new one and asking both sets of fans to support it.
I could put up with say a couple of up and coming DR 's, but 5 is too many for my palate. Add to that first team players using the team to get match fit, and it must feel like your team are being 'used'.
And how is it fair to the likes of Fev, Fax, Barrow who have no DR's ? Is the Championship fair, or relevant anymore ?
I wonder if Wire are trying to finesse a reaction to the current 'system' .
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| Quote ="Starbug"As a Leigh fan who no longer attends any matches , this just gives me another reason not to attend in the future'"
How many dual registered players will be in cherry and white at Post Office Road on Sunday? The club is doing great things on the field and behind the scenes, you should try and put whatever grievances behind you. I suspect there is more to it than disillusion though.
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