not good enough when a shift needs to be put in

absolutely fabulous when we are 30 nil up, but for me waste of a very large jersey next year

anyone else seen the light

go to bed and enjoy your hangover 2moro, been fantastic all season.

that pass in the semi was great wasnt it.......

however he was shocking in our biggest game of the season though wasnt he....

his tackle count must have been zero tonight.....


Wigan have improved for next year already by getting rid of their popular fat lad ...weve given ours another year....

nighty night...

Oh dear.

id lay off the beer mate or you should of gone to specsavers

Si, he wasn't really brought into the club to put a shift in, he was signed as an impact player from the bench. We should already have enough forwards on the pitch without Solomona to put in a shift when the going gets a bit tough but our pack against saints wasn't good enough and it wasn't good enough again tonight.

Remember we were missing Harrison tonight, thats one shift that you will always miss. Its like Ali Lauitiiti at Leeds, he isn't brought on to put a shift in, his age wouldn't allow it anyway these days.

We knew what the conditions would be like a few days in advance as it predicted rain tonight, maybe we needed another grafter in the middle instead of including Solomona in those conditions where his ball playing wouldn't really come into play.

We should already have enough forwards on the pitch without Solomona to put in a shift when the going gets a bit tough but our pack against saints wasn't good enough and it wasn't good enough again tonight.

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rob why do you think our pack,which on paper has got to be the best in sl has struggled recently? fatigue?

Not the man for these sort of games, and thats why he was 18th man. Played by necesity rather than choice, Harrison would have been much more suited but he got injured. What else can you do?

As a team we looked shattered last week, we also looked the same during that first 40 mins. I think it was a case of getting our second wind in the 2nd half which lifted us for a bit, it was still well below what were capable of.

I think its a combination of quite a few factors rather than just one thing, wembley and all the build up during the week plus the game itself probably took a lot out of us, i'd imagine its hard to come back down to earth after that sort of week both physically and mentally.

I also think were a worse side for having Clarke in the team, thats just my own opinion. His defence can be unconvincing at times, he offers us little more than basic rugby league, a simple left or right pass which isn't very hard for the oppsoition to read.

Were a much quicker and slicker team with Monaghan at 9 and Higham as the impact hooker, thats the way it will always be. Considering wetre a side that likes to throw the ball around we need quick thinking players in the side that will have a go at the opposition, Clarke rarely does that and certainly not at any pace.

I just don't think you can accomodate all 3 of our hookers in the same side, i know it worked at wembley but that was a case of the whole club was up for that final, we were never going to be beaten as a team that day regardless of who started at 9 and who started at 7. Clarke was actually pretty quiet during that final, we went up a gear when Higham came on.

It wouldn't suprise me to see the JC fan club pop up at some point defending him as thats the norm if anyone tries to have an opinion against him.

Its my opinion and i'll stick with it.

totally agree, apart from wembley we gone back since monas been put to 7 when at 9 hes best hooker in sl for mine.

what a joke of a thread. been fantastic all season one poor game you say he should go? fickle much?

Has something happened behind the scenes with Myler, were the rumours about him spouting off to Smith true? Otherwise I can't see why he's upset the balance of a team that was working so well to bring in (frankly average) players like Clarke and Higham, which requires Monas moving away from the position he's been so successful in.

While not agreeing with your opinions of individuals, I agree with the sentiments. Monas must be played at 9 rather than 7. If there was a problem with Myler's fitness/attitude then Bridge in the halves with Briers, if no problem then Myler needs to play. Playing Monas at 7 worked twice when Myler would have been targetted in the big Cup games, but when we needed inspiration off the bench he has been in the stands.

3 hookers can't play - but who to drop is a tricky one. Higham was our weakest player at Wembley I thought, but best last night. I maintain Higham & Monas are too similar to play rotating hookers but respect others think differently.

Solomona didn't look right in the final & I think his back has troubled him since. Maybe why he was 18th man last night - but who would people have been happier with as late replacement last night before kick off, Solomona or Mitchell?

FFS, not so long a go some of our bench players were,
Noone,
Bracheck,
mark gleeson,
warren stephens........

some people think solomonas poor......sorry no idea whatsoever.

Solomona has been a fantastic impact player to bring on. Agree with the comments about clarke to be honest. I like Clarke but i still think monas is our 9. Sorry Clarkey.

I usually agree with flying biscuit's comments, but I think he got this one wrong.

OP what a load of , have you been watching the same guy as me? :s

Solomona is carrying a back injury. End of story.

This stuff has always been said about Solomona. When he was a teenager Frank Endacott released him from the Warriors because he said he lacked work ethic. He has gone on to have a good career and been an effective player at every club he's been to.

Fans always admire hard workers but its easier to find hard grafters than players with spark like Solomona has.

its a travesty when players like kevin penny are being released and smith gives this guy another year etc etc etc.....