there are lot's of high expectations this year. New players a great coach, a good owner and great facillities. So what would you be happy with this year? i think at least a top four finish, and would love anther bit of silverware however i can't see us winning the CC again.

Why not?

So you think we cant win the CC however can SL?

i don't think the players will be that bothered this year, i can see them wanting to get to OT rather than Wembley again, you know 'been there done that'.

I would have thought they'd want to win all the game they play.

Thats absolute bobbins....once they have tasted Wembley they will want to go back year after year!

Why not Wembley and OT?

I'd be happy beating saints

If we were to win both i would give you £50.

You havent got £50.00

You honestly think that the players wont be bothered about reaching Wembley?

Winners don't have this attitude.
Saints and Leeds have won time and time again with the right attitude.
if we have the wrong attitude in any competition we won't win a thing.

That is total madness. thay will want to defend the challenge cup.

That is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read on here, and that's saying something.

i fear ray chicken has got bird flu.

1st I'd love to see us do over saints at thier place. 2nd I want a home playoff game.

I bloody well hope the players are bothered about defending a trophy we hadn't won since 1974...Thats what they're paid for Tony Smith won't except players that aren't that bothered anyway...

poppy cock!! is the only expression i can think of to respond to that statement, no way would a profesional sportsman/woman have that attitude ffs

so why were saints players bothered when they got to so many finals on the bounce...leeds players with a hatrick of winning finals...another pile of crap..talk sense man or log off

I'd be happy with a home play-off. Win all but the odd blip of our home games including Saints, do well away from home, and a good CC run (semi at least).

The cup win was great, but I want to see consistent good league performances.

Retaining the Cup isn't something you can aim for. You could get drawn against Leeds away in the first round and the realistic amongst you would know the likely outcome of that.

As for SL realistically no one is going to stop Leeds winning at OT unless something stupendous happens to them. Wigan seem the most likely to have a go at challenging them, it just seems too quick with too few changes for Wire to go from tenth and easy beats to winning SL.

Top 8 would be progress for Warrington, top 4 a good achievement.

Of all the nonsense I have read on here, yourself being a proponent of such matter, that is up there with the best.

very natters esque if you ask me.

rugby league knowledge = 0

who asked you mr smarty pants.

Saints aren't far off Wigan IMO, if they have an injury free season they would be up there, the gap isn't as big as it used to be when Hanley and Bell were there