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| Quote ="Cokey"Hang on
If he doesn't jump, he gets tackled around the waist. He jumps, and gets tackled on the thigh......Checkmate.'"
No, he doesn't. You're just refusing to see it for what it is because it's a Leigh player. He's very low, Mata'utia deliberately doesn't put his foot down, because he knows what Asiata is doing and takes his other foot off the floor and is falling by the time he makes contact. If he planted his leg in his normal stride he'd have had his leg badly damaged, likely broken.
You're obsessing over the height of the challenge. Whether it's an inch above the knee or an inch below the knee isn't going to change a thing. His head might hit the thigh, but his shoulder is right into the knee joint and there's no attempt to wrap the arms. The RFL even state it's not a genuine attempt at a tackle and is likely to cause injury. If he hits that with the studs in contact with the ground (As they would have been if he'd put his foot down), the knee is being destroyed. This isn't just me, look at Twitter, there are tons of genuine neutrals who agree it's incredibly dangerous. Paul Cooke, the former Hull favourite, is one, he isn't bitter about Saints losing to Leigh in the cup, he probably loved that. He needs to change his technique before he does something catestrophic. He's incredibly lucky Mata'utia isn't seriously injured.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Your own fans loudly applauded/cheered/laughed when the player hobbled off injured on Friday. Take your double standards elsewhere.'"
Like we're the only ones to do that 
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Your own fans loudly applauded/cheered/laughed when the player hobbled off injured on Friday. Take your double standards elsewhere.'"
If this is true they are certainly the dregs. I have my suspicions they are anyway, but this would confirm it.
The usual form is to clap an injured player off the field not jeer. These are sportsman risking serious injury.
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Quote ="Saddened!"
If you're okay with people tackling like Asiata is then that doesn't reflect well on you. Mata'utia has only avoided a season ending injury by jumping to avoid it. The tackle is aimed at knee level and he's just thrown his whole weight through his leg. He's Mata'utia spotting him coming and jumping away from another major controvery and another player facing a major rehab, if not the end of their career.'"
This sounds like [iFuturecrime[/i to me. Lot's of projection in your statement. Surely the fact is the RFL Disciplinary have looked into what [iactually happened [/iand there is no charge resulting. Anything after that could be considered to be just whinging one didn't get the outcome one wanted.
Anyway maybe it was payback for this cheap late head shot by Mata'utia. 2m 55s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNYnrc4kjfA
What goes around, comes around.
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If you're okay with people tackling like Asiata is then that doesn't reflect well on you. Mata'utia has only avoided a season ending injury by jumping to avoid it. The tackle is aimed at knee level and he's just thrown his whole weight through his leg. He's Mata'utia spotting him coming and jumping away from another major controvery and another player facing a major rehab, if not the end of their career.'"
This sounds like [iFuturecrime[/i to me. Lot's of projection in your statement. Surely the fact is the RFL Disciplinary have looked into what [iactually happened [/iand there is no charge resulting. Anything after that could be considered to be just whinging one didn't get the outcome one wanted.
Anyway maybe it was payback for this cheap late head shot by Mata'utia. 2m 55s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNYnrc4kjfA
What goes around, comes around.
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| Quote ="Wires71"If this is true they are certainly the dregs. I have my suspicions they are anyway, but this would confirm it.
The usual form is to clap an injured player off the field not jeer. These are sportsman risking serious injury.'"
Well, they definitely did so. Putting my rfl hat on, there was some mitigation (  ) because when he'd been sin binned earlier, he'd gestured to the crowd asking for 'more' as they jeered him off. So, I guess in their eyes he was fair game and asking for it when he was later injured, coupled with the fact he's public enemy no 1 in St Helens.
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| It's Saddened taking over a topic on the Warrington forum again - just hit the ignore button with him and life is so much better.....Simples!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, ban him for that and the clear intent. They acknowledge the intent and the danger to the ball carrier and still decide to let him off. Even if they decide they can't ban him due to sticking religiously to the framework, just issue him a warning not to tackle like that. The puerile, childish reponses from the usual suspects on here just show how bitter some of you are towards Saints. It's hilarious when it's a Saints player out of the game for 9 months+ and spending 4 months struggling to walk, with no date for a return still. If it's Hayes' knee he points backwards or Ashton's or Lindop's career he ends? I suspect you won't find it as funny then.
The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? Given the context as well, his first involvement against Saints since he injured four players in one game with it, and he goes straight for the knee of another player? It's odd that it's allowed in an age where the RFL is supposedly working to improve player welfare. Your opinions on it would do a 180 very quickly if it wasn't Saints, or if it was Saints tackling like that.'"
The key to this is where the contact was made, that will influence the number of games a player receives. A high tackle that hits the shoulder first will get less games than one which contacts the head directly.
The technique is banned for contact below the knee, If he injured a Warrington player with a tackle that was on or below the knee I would agree I’d be angry. Fact is he hit above the knee. I totally agree a tackle that endangers the knee joint should be taken out of the game - and it’s been outlawed. If there are injuries occurring from similar tackles where contact is ‘just above the knee’ then they should review the guidelines again.
At no point would I think it’s hilarious any player was out of the game for any period of time.
He was warned, he was given an in game yellow and a grade A - which I think impacts future suspensions. If he carries on tackling like that he’s going to cop a long ban, but until he does there isn’t much that can be done other than the grade A he was given.
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| Wow Sad One can’t half wang on, I’ve seen shorter solicitors’ letters.
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| There is no need for dangerous play of any kind & the RFL should be ruthless in policing what goes on on the pitch.
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| Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
Expect another "War& Peace" post from Saddened explaining why Percival has been victimised by being suspended and shouldn`t have been sent-off.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Expect another "War& Peace" post from Saddened explaining why Percival has been victimised by being suspended and shouldn`t have been sent-off.'"
About to unveil their new chant…
“It’s never our fault, it’s never our fault…”
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
Both harsh IMHO.
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| In view of cup draw no doubt Percival will appeal
With regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"
With regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh'"
It was harsh at the time, now with retrospect it was ridiculously unjust.
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"In view of cup draw no doubt Percival will appeal
:24q7gfbdWith regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh[
Good point well made for anyone looking for a bit of balance
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I wouldn’t worrry UR, the chip on each shoulder keeps the Sad One well balanced.
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| Big difference from the first couple of weeks.
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| Does this mean teams are learning or that refs are just not arrised after just a month? I asked elsewhere, wasn't there meant to be a crackdown on the rucks, because Saints, Wigan and Cats are still slowing teams down awfully with no repercussions.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Does this mean teams are learning or that refs are just not arrised after just a month? I asked elsewhere, wasn't there meant to be a crackdown on the rucks, because Saints, Wigan and Cats are still slowing teams down awfully with no repercussions.'"
I was saying this to someone y’day. That Leeds/Saints game was so different in the 2nd half with Saints laying on that long I thought they had fallen asleep. I knew Leeds needed to have scored more points in the 1st half because I knew the way it would be played when they came back out.
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| Quote ="karetaker"I was saying this to someone y’day. That Leeds/Saints game was so different in the 2nd half with Saints laying on that long I thought they had fallen asleep. I knew Leeds needed to have scored more points in the 1st half because I knew the way it would be played when they came back out.'"
The best way to make the RFL deal with this borefest of lying on by certain clubs (We all know who they are), is for the other clubs to imitate this tactic, so that the product is unwatchable and SKY complain that the games aren`t providing the required level of entertainment to their viewing audience.
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