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| It can be done mathematically. At odds of 13983816 to 1.
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| Go on then, how did he do it? I was watching t'rugby, like.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Go on then, how did he do it? I was watching t'rugby, like.'"
Magic eight ball stylee.
over three thousand shakes like.
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| Clever work by Brown, getting you to watch a hour of nonsense, expecting you to believe that a bit of mathematical group work can win you millions...
Camera trickery, pure and simple....though he ain't ever going to admit to it....
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| Never camera trickery. He's not so mundane. I believe it was the focus group who did it, he always explains his trickes and always states that anyone can do them.
Can't wait till the next one!
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| What was the explanation, then?
Also, I'd like to see him do it tomorrow night, but show us the numbers first.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"Never camera trickery. He's not so mundane. I believe it was the focus group who did it, he always explains his trickes and always states that anyone can do them.
Can't wait till the next one!'" I've swayed the other way now, it clearly wasn't the focus group. The fact that he did the last sums himself, and didn't show anyone confirms this IMO.
I suspect it was like the pyramid scheme he had for the horse racing one, and the group featured on TV were the ones who had had some lucky success and there were plenty of other focus groups who were thanked for their time but had failed.
It will be interesting to see if anybody comes out with anything from any of these other groups.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"What was the explanation, then?
Also, I'd like to see him do it tomorrow night, but show us the numbers first.'"
But when the group knew the numbers before the draw they didn't do too well.
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| He was hinting at the end he fixed the machine otherwise he wouldnt bring up the subject like he didnt explain why he couldn't have had a fake ticket
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| Quote ="Dave T"I've swayed the other way now, it clearly wasn't the focus group. The fact that he did the last sums himself, and didn't show anyone confirms this IMO.
I suspect it was like the pyramid scheme he had for the horse racing one, and the group featured on TV were the ones who had had some lucky success and there were plenty of other focus groups who were thanked for their time but had failed.'"
I don't agree, he watched the draw live with the group so how did he do that with more than one?
Quote ="Dave T"It will be interesting to see if anybody comes out with anything from any of these other groups.'"
If what you suggest is true I'm sure they will have all had to sign secrecy agreements
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"He was hinting at the end he fixed the machine otherwise he wouldnt bring up the subject like he didnt explain why he couldn't have had a fake ticket'"
If the draw was fixed I want my pound back!!
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"If the draw was fixed I want my pound back!!
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There is no way the machine was fixed. Derren Brown is a master of suggestion, misdirection and suspense. He never does anything illegal. The high-up's at C4 would have had to know the secret in order to allow it to go ahead and they would never sanction a law-breaking exercise that effectively screwed over half the country (those who bought tickets).
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Clever work by Brown, getting you to watch a hour of nonsense, expecting you to believe that a bit of mathematical group work can win you millions...
Camera trickery, pure and simple....though he ain't ever going to admit to it....
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Totaly right. He just whipped his focus group up into believing that they had predicted six balls but did you notice that he never showed them what their prediction was before he left. When he got four balls correct, it was pure luck. Two or three right would have been just as convincing from his point of view to get his group into believing that they had worked together. What a load of tosh
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"There is no way the machine was fixed. Derren Brown is a master of suggestion, misdirection and suspense. He never does anything illegal. The high-up's at C4 would have had to know the secret in order to allow it to go ahead and they would never sanction a law-breaking exercise that effectively screwed over half the country (those who bought tickets).'"
He was very precise when he was explaining at the end (100 g balls) etc
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"There is no way the machine was fixed. Derren Brown is a master of suggestion, misdirection and suspense. He never does anything illegal. The high-up's at C4 would have had to know the secret in order to allow it to go ahead and they would never sanction a law-breaking exercise that effectively screwed over half the country (those who bought tickets).'"
Of course it wasn't fixed. I think he put that bit at the end just to confused people like The Jigga Jigga, here.
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| If you have a chance watch it again and watch the ball on the left that turns into 39.
During the draw, it's level with all the others. Just before he turns it, it is about 2mm higher.
Bet Dezzas giving his assistant some stick for giving the game away
Look closely!
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"He was very precise when he was explaining at the end (100 g balls) etc'"
Derren Brown is very precise in everything he does. He is a master of [imisdirection[/i, he simply us 3 possibilities at the start and fleshed them all out and the last option was to plant that seed of doubt in your mind.
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"Of course it wasn't fixed. I think he put that bit at the end just to confused people like The Jigga Jigga, here.'" #
It doesnt take much
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| No seed of doubt - camera trickery. Image overlay technique
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"#
It doesnt take much
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Your words, mate.
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| Did I hear correctly that he is going to play a video on next weeks show that prevents viewers from getting up out of their chair? Or have I got that wrong?
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| A better trick is
Saints losing to Catalans.
Potter coach of Cats last season.
No chance of playing the Cats in France
Bradford in form.
Warrington cup holders and a point to prove.
Which teams would you prefer not to play?
Now that's magic!
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| Quote ="W.F"Did I hear correctly that he is going to play a video on next weeks show that prevents viewers from getting up out of their chair? Or have I got that wrong?'"
No you're right.
He's going to try and use subliminal messaging live to glue us all to our chairs. Some people are more susceptible to that stuff than others, like hypnosis.
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"He was very precise when he was explaining at the end (100 g balls) etc'" How do we know that he was precise?
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| Quote ="TheDoc"No seed of doubt - camera trickery. Image overlay technique'"
Don't agree at all. If you watch it closely, the camera is moving slightly all the time and moving completely in time on each side of the screen. Derren Brown is too clever for anything as mundane as camera trickery.
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