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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Trueman wouldn't be half the player he is under the Wire regime. He plays with a freedom and license to exploit his ability whereas we nullify all our creativity with dreary, predictable tactics.
There's an abundance of talent in that Wire team and we should have had their pack on the back foot, and Trueman running up cul-de-sacs. The fact we didn't is down to team selection, use of subs, motivation, preparation and coaching ....... and it's an embarrassment.'"
So I have asked this question before, what exactly is Briers coaching then, he was a maverick player.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Trueman wouldn't be half the player he is under the Wire regime. He plays with a freedom and license to exploit his ability whereas we nullify all our creativity with dreary, predictable tactics.
There's an abundance of talent in that Wire team and we should have had their pack on the back foot, and Trueman running up cul-de-sacs. The fact we didn't is down to team selection, use of subs, motivation, preparation and coaching ....... and it's an embarrassment.'"
This exactly.
Our coaching regime is absolutely horrific, I was mortified that the club didn't replace him at the end of 2019, I'm upset that he didn't go last season and I'm absolutely disgusted that he is still here now. I don't for one second blame him and I also think he's an honest bloke giving it his best but it isn't good enough. The club itself especially KFP have been too inactive, shown apathy to some very long runs of micky poor performance and allowed this situation to arise and then spiral. We need a change now, its gone way too far. I don't even look forward to watching the games on TV anymore.
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| Quote ="karetaker"So I have asked this question before, what exactly is Briers coaching then, he was a maverick player.'"
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| Sadly thinking back to 2017 when we went to Leigh, Kurt Gidley endured 40 mins of 'player cam' and we all endured a dismal 80 mins all round.
Don't know why it suddenly seems appropriate with Friday coming up.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Price re-signed Sita, signed Clark, Latu, Davis, Kibula, Butler and Mulhearn, re-negotiated Robson to stay. He also signed and relased BMM. There can be no excuse about having available props. If they’re rubbish, don’t sign them. If he’s not getting the players he wants, explain that and walk'"
Not really true tho they were signed whilst he was coach but they are not necessarily his signings. That's like saying smith resigned Kevin penny.
I'm in no way defending price but I'm sorry 75% of the team must also shoulder responsibility also. A lot of our experienced players have overseen the demise of 2 coaches now they should not see a 3rd coach also. I cannot think of any of our side cooper clark n currie who I think go that extra mile off the pitch and on it to be the best they can be. How many of out side would take a pay cut to go te a team that deliver them gf winners rings. We have very good players but they dont make a very good team and I dont think inglis aside we have a natural born winner in our club
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| Quote ="CW8"This exactly.
Our coaching regime is absolutely horrific, I was mortified that the club didn't replace him at the end of 2019, I'm upset that he didn't go last season and I'm absolutely disgusted that he is still here now. I don't for one second blame him and I also think he's an honest bloke giving it his best but it isn't good enough. The club itself especially KFP have been too inactive, shown apathy to some very long runs of micky poor performance and allowed this situation to arise and then spiral. We need a change now, its gone way too far. I don't even look forward to watching the games on TV anymore.'"
I very much think this is spot on. I think there is a wider ethos problem at the club.
Acceptance of mediocrity does not make champions.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Sadly thinking back to 2017 when we went to Leigh, Kurt Gidley endured 40 mins of 'player cam' and we all endured a dismal 80 mins all round.
Don't know why it suddenly seems appropriate with Friday coming up.'"
The script is written already isn't it? Leigh were fabulous for an hour v Wigan and we won't mount the kind of comeback WIgan did. In fact, I fear a mauling.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"Not really true tho they were signed whilst he was coach but they are not necessarily his signings. That's like saying smith resigned Kevin penny.
I'm in no way defending price but I'm sorry 75% of the team must also shoulder responsibility also. A lot of our experienced players have overseen the demise of 2 coaches now they should not see a 3rd coach also. I cannot think of any of our side cooper clark n currie who I think go that extra mile off the pitch and on it to be the best they can be. How many of out side would take a pay cut to go te a team that deliver them gf winners rings. =#0000FFWe have very good players but they dont make a very good team and I dont think inglis aside we have a natural born winner in our club'"
That's it in a nutshell. We should be more cohesive in both attack and defence, and instead of playing to our strengths, we are developing more weaknesses. Playing as a team has to be our main focus.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"That's it in a nutshell. We should be more cohesive in both attack and defence, and instead of playing to our strengths, we are developing more weaknesses. Playing as a team has to be our main focus.'"
Agreed
The side frustrates me and I dint put it all on price.
We have seen in a good few games his tactics have worked. The saints cc cup win was brilliant but we had played similarly on and off generally against saints leeds for Wigan, prices tactics dont change much however the players effort levels and commitment does.
I would happily watch us replicate that cc performance week in week out if it ment we get a grand final I think we should be questioning prices ability to deliver us success but also just as loudly questioning the players commitment and desire to win also not just the flagship games but every game
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| Quote ="karetaker"So I have asked this question before, what exactly is Briers coaching then, he was a maverick player.'"
Great players don’t always make good coaches.
Look at Cunningham at Saints.
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| What is scary right now is we are giving Leigh 16 on the handicap, what do bookies see that we clearly are NOT.
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| As much as I’m gutted about our defeat...I think having the wake up call now, is the best offensive we can have.
We’re better than that, but the team can no longer go into games thinking we only have to turn up to get the 2 points.
We’ll be smarter for the smarting.
I stick by my prediction, if we don’t win at the least 3/6 games, Price won’t see the 7th...but I’m pretty sure he will.
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| Whats the betting on what point this year duckie will predict that we will 'win the lot'. I reckon it will come in about 3 weeks...beat Leigh and Swinton and then duckie will say, if we win at Hull away we will win the lot.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Whats the betting on what point this year duckie will predict that we will 'win the lot'. I reckon it will come in about 3 weeks...beat Leigh and Swinton and then duckie will say, if we win at Hull away we will win the lot.'"
Wire were beaten while still on the bus to Leeds.
The attitude and self belief were consumed by the swelling of the players heads and nonchalance.
We completely disrespected Castleford and there was our lesson.
Had that game been Wigan or Saints, we’d have been switched on. However don’t take this as an excuse, it isn’t, it’s a damming post, there should be no excuse for that preparation, individually or as a team. The players and coaches should be rightly embarrassed. If they are not, they are not right for this club.
Do I believe we will go on the win the lot Sally?....yes absolutely yes, convinced as we have the best squad, my grannie could coach this team to a GF win, never mind John Kear.
Do I believe Pricey is a good coach?...no absolutely no, he’ll walk away from this club with a glowing CV. He’s at the right place at the right time.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wire were beaten while still on the bus to Leeds.
The attitude and self belief were consumed by the swelling of the players heads and nonchalance.
We completely disrespected Castleford and there was our lesson.
Had that game been Wigan or Saints, we’d have been switched on. However don’t take this as an excuse, it isn’t, it’s a damming post, there should be no excuse for that preparation, individually or as a team. The players and coaches should be rightly embarrassed. If they are not, they are not right for this club.
Do I believe we will go on the win the lot Sally?....yes absolutely yes, convinced as we have the best squad, my grannie could coach this team to a GF win, never mind John Kear.
Do I believe Pricey is a good coach?...no absolutely no, he’ll walk away from this club with a glowing CV. He’s at the right place at the right time.'"
Have you had too many sugars in your tea again? I suggest you either go and check on your Gran's availability for the rest of the season or go and have a lie down.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wire were beaten while still on the bus to Leeds.
The attitude and self belief were consumed by the swelling of the players heads and nonchalance.
We completely disrespected Castleford and there was our lesson.
Had that game been Wigan or Saints, we’d have been switched on. However don’t take this as an excuse, it isn’t, it’s a damming post, there should be no excuse for that preparation, individually or as a team. The players and coaches should be rightly embarrassed. If they are not, they are not right for this club.
Do I believe we will go on the win the lot Sally?....yes absolutely yes, convinced as we have the best squad, my grannie could coach this team to a GF win, never mind John Kear.
Do I believe Pricey is a good coach?...no absolutely no, he’ll walk away from this club with a glowing CV. He’s at the right place at the right time.'"
We have nowhere near the best squad.go thru this squad and ask would they get into saints team.at least half a dozen would get no where near barring injuries..the whole club needs a dam good shake.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"We have nowhere near the best squad.go thru this squad and ask would they get into saints team.at least half a dozen would get no where near barring injuries..the whole club needs a dam good shake.'"
You’ve wrote me of more than once before SAM.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You’ve wrote me of more than once before SAM.'"
How many of our players get in Saints’ team?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You’ve wrote me of more than once before SAM.'"
How many times have you been right about us winning the lot?
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| Quote ="CW8"How many times have you been right about us winning the lot?'"
Just once. 2021
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Just once. 2021'"
You’ve not answered my question. At least back your silly statements up.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"You’ve not answered my question. At least back your silly statements up.'"
Makes sense to me LTS
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You’ve wrote me of more than once before SAM.'"
Like reading your comments RD but our squad isn't as good as you say it is...hope your right can't see it for several reasons one being the 2 at Hb they don't create enough our pack is to pedestrian and our backs only score if the ball comes off a kick..this ain't how to win a trophy at land the gf trophy
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| I suppose it could be worse, imagine if Pricey changed his mind about going home and signed a two year extension?
I don't see what the club has to lose by dispensing with him now. Keep him and the players keep on non-performing/sulk over the game plans they're given or fire him and give Henderson/Briers a full seasons crack at turning things around. Leave it seven games or more and it'll be too late to salvage anything.
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"I suppose it could be worse, imagine if Pricey changed his mind about going home and signed a two year extension?
I don't see what the club has to lose by dispensing with him now. Keep him and the players keep on non-performing/sulk over the game plans they're given or fire him and give Henderson/Briers a full seasons crack at turning things around. Leave it seven games or more and it'll be too late to salvage anything.'"
Not going to happen unfortunately Price and Karl are best mates.
I wouldn't be wanting Henderson or Briers to take over either, surely they're part of the problem?
Give it Paul Anderson for the season.
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