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| Thanks Wires71 ... the fact that he is "Marquee" says a lot. I remember Wire working hard to try & keep him. He was playing well at the time.
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| [quote="The Speculator":16ocwx5j]It wouldn't surprise me if Saints were interested in Toby King for 2026. After all, if squad numbers are any indication, they appear to be going into this season with Hurrell and Percival still as their first-choice centres. Which is a tad surprising, given the various challenges faced by one or both of them in terms of age, fitness, proneness to injury, defensive frailty and midriff blubber.[/quote:16ocwx5j]
If Saints do sign him, then there will be a major step change in the relationship between the two clubs with them signing our unwanted players, since they already have Clark.
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| [quote="Smiffy27":19jpqy6v]Thanks Wires71 ... the fact that he is "Marquee" says a lot. I remember Wire working hard to try & keep him. He was playing well at the time.[/quote:19jpqy6v]
He was - the peak of his time with us. Then he signed mid season and went into the slump. I think he managed 2 tries that season after signing. Then, in 2022, cue Powell's man management accusing him of getting gout due to poor lifestyle and shipping him out.
*https://www.totalrl.com/toby-king-reveals-how-gout-diagnosis-sowed-seeds-of-sour-daryl-powell-relationship-at-warrington-wolves/
To be honest we were a basket case then with stories of King bringing his dog to training, players purposefully barging into coaches when subbed*, and players being allowed to tailor their training around their business interests etc. I think Price wanted the easy life rather than confronting these issues.
*https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/cooper-should-never-play-for-warrington-again-how-social-media-reacted-to-mike-coopers-barge-on-coach-steve-price-40030/
Purposeful or not you can bet your last £1 that Mike Cooper would not have barged into Sam Burgess (or Matt Peet).
In closing I am not 100% sure that all that culture has been completely driven out of the squad and club. It may be supressed under Sam but I would not be surprised to see it creep back in when Sam eventually leaves. Some players have spanned Smith, Price, Powell and Burgess...
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| I do remember Cooper making contact with Price and it didn't look good ... but can't remember any other examples can you? Lots of changes since then and I'm optimistic that we have moved on.
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| [quote="Smiffy27":2fw1e6rk]I do remember Cooper making contact with Price and it didn't look good ... but can't remember any other examples can you? Lots of changes since then and I'm optimistic that we have moved on.[/quote:2fw1e6rk]
Don't think there was anything in that. If you listen to the Wire in Bondi podcast that was posted on here a few months ago with Coops, he absolutely loves Price. Daryl Powell however...
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| [quote="Lord Tony Smith":1qhrcbxc]Don't think there was anything in that. If you listen to the Wire in Bondi podcast that was posted on here a few months ago with Coops, he absolutely loves Price. Daryl Powell however...[/quote:1qhrcbxc]
Pleased if there was nothing in it. It is possible to bump into someone by accident.
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| [quote="Lord Tony Smith":2704oljt]Don't think there was anything in that. If you listen to the Wire in Bondi podcast that was posted on here a few months ago with Coops, he absolutely loves Price. Daryl Powell however...[/quote:2704oljt]
Yeah I listened to the pod cast too. I am not convinced it was unavoidable. Price did not move. Guess we will never know.
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| [quote="Smiffy27":k50sp12u]Pleased if there was nothing in it. It is possible to bump into someone by accident.[/quote:k50sp12u]
Of course it is. Accidents happen all the time.
[url:k50sp12u]https://x.com/WhatBevan/status/1401418424983584772[/url:k50sp12u]
[url:k50sp12u]https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/cooper-should-never-play-for-warrington-again-how-social-media-reacted-to-mike-coopers-barge-on-coach-steve-price-40030/[/url:k50sp12u]
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| [quote="Wires71":25d8vyg6]Of course it is. Accidents happen all the time. [/quote:25d8vyg6]
Dead right. Anyway those days are behind us. So let's move on and look forward to the season. RL is back.
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| I think King will get an offer on much reduced terms, £50k on the cap is peanuts for a starting player. I get that there are tales about his application under Powell, but I would take most of that with a pinch of salt. As someone mentioned earlier, the Wire in Bondi podcast is quite illuminating, particularly Ellis Longstaff’s…
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| Yes Barb.
That was a great podcast with Ellis.
He nails home exactly what most people thought about Powell.
And candid enough to let know the feeling of Stuart Middleton about Powell too, however nothing that SM had already publicly said in so many words about Powell, so it’s nothing Stuart could regard as a confidentiality letdown.
Powell was a mistake that they allowed to go on far too long.
Makes me think that the club should do something for Cooper and recognise the player he was to Warrington.
A vailed showing Wire that they accept the mistake made letting him move on, but importantly, to restore an exit to retirement at Wire, in recognition to Coops that he never got to experience because of Powell.
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