All of them?

Looks like Bateman got away with one

Probably get cited for that, cheap swing then throwing the ball.

Manfredi is ace.. what a player

Thaler horror show tonight. If that isn't a knock on the we may as well all just go home and watch Union.

Don't get me started on the ball steal when Manfredi threw the ball out of play.

i think wigan will be the team to beat come the end of the season.

I didnt watch the game, just kept up to date with the Sky Sports app live feed on my phone, but it sounded like Cas were unlucky towards the end of the game? Bombed a few chances and let discipline get the better of them?

The competency of officiating is going rapidly down hill , almost as quickly as the officials are raising their profiles. The sport is losing out, watching live games on tv is becoming a chore to watch and listen. Stuart Cunmmings is such a bottom wipe, add to him the others and its becoming a great big turn off. I get you can turn off the sound but that's not the point.

Impartiality and straight talking will do the trick, instead of the drivel spouted and bottom licking.

Any way Thaler fell for the tactic of moving waaaaay off the mark and the little dives to get penalties. The touch judge and Thaler didn't spot Manfredi throwing the ball away when being pushed to the line.

Bateman got away with an incident as the whistle had gone, otherwise he would be in trouble. S Tomkins ensuring that he lies all over the tackling player to get a penalty.

On the other hand Wigan have become less aggressive in their tackling recently still hard but less aggression and will to hurt people.

Going for a lie down now before I burst

The 50/50s went ridiculously in favour of Wigan. Blades of grass.

Moving off the mark is a joke now. Just do what the Aussies do and stop he play the ball and make them move back to where the tackle was made. This slows the play te ball down and negates any advantage they wanted to make. You see hardly any of it in the NRL.

The other one is the diving and purposeful "trapping" of the tackled player to milk a penalty. Just penalise the tackled player doing it and it will disappear completely within a couple of weeks.


As for last night then thankfully Wigan won as nobody putting in a performance like Thaler did deserves to be on a losing side.

Tautai is a complete joke for moving off teh mark, he was shameless in the first half,

Sarginson is the worst. At one point he got tackled on the 20m line at the railway end of the ground and played the ball on the white line in the middle of Wheldon Road.

To win is one thing, but to win and gain the respect of the opposition fans is the real prize.

Unfortunately for Wigan they haven't been able to achieve the second part of the equation for many years. I think Leeds managed it last year and we achieved it when we won the League leaders shield - but Wigan.....sorry.... No.

Wigan doing the first tackle penalty give away game too.
Then doing the last tackle injury fake. Every sneaky legal cheat trick under the sun that they always get away with every week to eat minutes to win a game.

One way traffic at Catalan, HKR hell bent on just giving penalties away.

Take that back nice try for HKR.

Baron von Greenback said after they lost at home to Hull a few weeks ago that they're not a big powerful team or a team of flair, they're a team of details and they didn't get the details right and that's why they lost.

Their details are all the dark arts of the game. They're the worst team I've ever seen for it. Maybe only Jose Mourinho's Madrid and Chelsea (second time around) teams in association football are comparable. Every single little niggle or cheat they can do, they do it. And they do so much of it, only a certain percentage will ever get penalised or not penalised for the opposition.

Now Sam "look I'm being held down(when he's not)" Tomkins is back it'll only get worse. Their worst two players for it - Farrell and O'Lie-on - didn't even play the other night. So only expect it to get worse when those players come back.

Guess we will be happy for Wakefield to win this.

Whats happened to Wakefield, the wheels have well and truely fallen off so far.

Seen that fella in a HullFC top celebrating the HullKR tries?

WAkefield's defence is awful tonight. Very impressed by the young referee tonight, not afraid to make a decision.

Since half time against us Wakey have conceded an absolute bucket load of points.

Why is the ref in Cas' kit?

Probably because they need him after they start they've made against a weak Widnes team.

Hate myself for saying this but wouldnt be unhappy with a Widnes win.