Yeah Leutele would be awesome but 4 players for him would be a bit much, especially as we don't have many players to throw around. If Kibula goes on a season long loan that would say we don't want him already as we signed him on a 1 year deal

Surely if its a loan deal these young players will go and get a chance to have a year of first team action in SL, being coached by McDermott.

Would they develop faster with a year on the bench at Warrington?

Forty20 podcast mentioned that we have been given 'short shrift' by TWP in our attempt to sign Leutele.

Tony Gigot is available.

...He was

If we become able to add another player, surely a prop is where our need really is?

Bit odd that Toronto have been saying they've spent up the Salary cap and need dispensation to sign more players. Get told no then sign Tony Gigot

Only a month long deal apparently..

They have a duel reg with Rochdale?
Couldn't they sign a player for/ through Rochdale, and DR him back to TWP?

Haven’t we filled that gap with Latu? (Hopefully)

Seemingly not, otherwise he'd have played 1st team rugby last Sunday.

From seeing some of the comments from the Widnes fans they where less than impressed with Latu, although that could just be because he's a Wire.

Below is a direct quote from widnes forum from James Gordon, widnes fan and Journalist.

"I thought Patton was awful, though he was behind a beaten pack.

I didn’t think Latu did badly at all, and the abuse aimed at him was disgraceful."

Clearly he needs to be match fit before we can play him.

I see the latter was applicable, thought that may have something to do with the comments.

Maybe they got him in as French/Canadian

Could just be a case of not being fully fit and leaving Gold coast at 35 degree weather, to suddenly deal with our weather. Maybe he's thinking christ what have i done ha ha. I'm happy to give him time to settle in and show his worth, hopefully he can add some punch to our forwards and take some pressure off Hill, Cooper and Philbin

He hasn't had a pre-season so I would imagine that he was some way off being fit. The question is, when fit, will he be good enough to take the 2nd Prop spot on the bench (Hill and Cooper to start then Philbin and Alauola / Latu)? Or is he another Tasi?

I hope not, He had rave reviews when he first hit the scene and fans kicked off when he was allowed to leave for Gold coast. But injurys and a drop in form saw him not hit that potential. But he played for the indigenous all stars and has a cap for Tonga so the Ability is there, he just needs the right coaching and frame of mind etc so i'm hoping we've finally unearthed a gem and get it right with him

Gold coast seems to be a graveyard for players careers. The only person i know to flock back there was our Tyrone

...didn't Brian Carney do okay there...and it didn't do his career ant harm.

I don't think he ever actually played a game for Gold coast due to injury? I could be wrong though, i remember him playing about 2-3 games for us then breaking his arm and retiring. I was so excited when we signed him aswell

correct, he did 12 months in advance at newcastle then went to RAH RAH, then us

Anyone heard anything more on the Gelling Situation??

Last thing I heard was that he DOES have a future at the club but we are allowing the Authorities to conduct their investigations. I guess it depends whether or not he is charged/convicted.