funnily enough i was about to say i don't love it.

Every single post is micro examined and broken down, and there's digs upon digs and long memories bringing stuff up from ages ago and everyone is right and its bloody bleeding awful. And thats withouth smokey and his quoteathon.

It's a big implosion and they're all running around screaming but best to skim read, thats my advice. but do go over.

Leeds hit a real season-to-date nadir last night, they were absolutely atrocious, and a Cas team that themselves have been low on confidence and form could have put 60+ on them. Every week I look at Leeds' teamsheet (for all their claims that their injury situation is worse than anybody else) and the opposition and think "this is where they start to turn it round", but they are heading backwards at a rate of knots.

I do feel sorry for McDermott though - a proud, honest man who is being very, very badly let down by the team. Some sections of the Leeds crowd have never taken to him and continue to attribute their success to Sinfield & Peacock, and the opportunity to savage him is probably quite a consolation. Having said that, 17000 turning up on a Thursday to watch that is about 16999 more than the club deserves.

On the other hand, you have "Mr Leeds" himself, Gary H. Deluded, self-congratulatory with an ego visible from the moon, if his head was buried any deeper in the sand he'd be able to see Sydney Opera House. That big thing approaching isn't the middle 8's Gary, it's an iceberg and you may think HMS Hethrington is unsinkable but I'd start counting the lifeboats mate.

kath looked pretty rough last night.

Well at least she's showing the same form as last season then.

I believe that they are probably right in that the team were playing for Peacock and Sinfield rather than McDermott.

enjoyed reading that.

Really all they have talked about in first 10 mins is Tomkins

Great start from Hull at the Piedome tonight.

How do Wigan not get penalised for knocking tacklers off tackles?

Wigan fans seem unhappy that they're finally getting dinged for p*ssing about at the PTB

Manfredi loves buying penalties - constantly throwing himself and the ball on the floor

Eddie Hemings has just come in his pants over Tomkins . It's embarrassing

Did I just see Sam Tomkins then? I'm sure I did. None of the Sky team has mentioned anything about him returning tonight have they?

Think he is still sidelined with injury alongside the entire Wigan first team, the u19s, the u16s, the women's team and Shaun Wanes fantasy team.

So which Hull player will be targeted in the 2nd half?
A hit on Snyde or Highton perhaps?

Wigan don't appear to have any injuries tonight, it's almost a full side so it appeara

One of the influential players at hull is going to get it in the knees soon.
Clubb perhaps?

When he came on they didn't mention stains Leeds or thugs injuries for two minutes I was in shock

Well he as already failed as they said he scored in 5 mins on his debut.

If Pies get beat tonight saints will be in the top 4!
That doesn't really point towards a strong superleague for this season considering many at saints want KC out.

Why, Wigan don't have any injuries do they? I've not heard it mentioned

Only if Saints win.

Don't know how many times the ref needs to tell both teams to clean up the ruck before he bins somebody

No more bets being taken for man of steel. Sam Tomkins has won it already