Touche .....lol

Sean is your brother taking a dividend?

wow, so tell me if i'm wrong but all those massive crowds they have at the pie dome just end up paying the rent to dave whelan? and in actual fact have no real impact on the clubs profits.... that's funny!

I don't really understand your question. But Wigan pay a percentage of their gate receipts to rent the stadium. Last year this was £197k.
What you have to take into account is that there are no extra costs i.e groundsmen, staff, lighting etc. to pay. For example the new pitch didn't cost Wigan RLFC anything.

I would think that Wigans 2011 finances will show a better profit than Wires did in their 2010 Cup winning season.

i suppose i worded it badly so i'll try again, despite the wage costs that warrington pay to maintain the stadium which i guess are off set by staging ccsf's and Auz v Nz matches say, wigan have week in week out larger crowds than warrington, i'm sure you may have mentioned that once or twice


197k goes straight to whelan's pocket thus kinda off setting the difference in crowd size if you get my drift. so in theory if we increase or crowds by even a small % next season following the expansion of the ground in real terms wigan would need a larger % to even come close on the financial stakes.

wow that's clear as mud!

i supose what i'm saying is .....owning your own ground is better than renting! especially when it comes to revenue!

The only downside is we have to pay for "filling in the corners" whereas the Goons don't need too. Oh and their stadium is vastly superior but not as "sexy and state of the art" as ours.

Wigan pay a percentage to Whelan (10%) but there is little cost. How much is the cost of the ground development at Wire, and how long will it take to recover that cost, when you only fill it twice a season (V Wigan & Saints)?

A percentage that Whelan could increase at anytime, 10% is very generous compared to other deals I've seen. Your landlord really should be harder on you.

We might only fill it twice a season however the average is over 11,000 and we've only had 1 attendance under 10,000. Best to expand now while the demand is there and the £2 Million will be covered quicker.

We have a stadium as an asset Wigan Warriors don't.

How much is the cost of the ground development at Wire, and how long will it take to recover that cost, when you only fill it twice a season (V Wigan & Saints)?

I've been told that the cost is being wholly met by two of the board members.

As for being full only twice a season. It is the home areas that is being expanded. At present it is limited to around 10000 home fans. We regularly meet that number. With the extension it would give us room for 12000 home supporters if the west stand is away only.

Armchairs back.

1 advantage of owning our own stadium is that we have a better understanding of future costs. The terms and conditions of renting, can and do change. 1 potential problem for Wigan I guess is that things depend on how the football club do. Would relegation for instance force changes to the T&C's?

Neither of us are anywhere near Saints. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 681036.stm

Neither of us are anywhere near Saints. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 681036.stm