...shouldn't that be dormice?

Yeah, but they are "Fantastic human beings, & outstanding members of the communty"!!!!!

Good old Tone, the social worker.

Are we watching RL, or doing an NVQ in community service?

That's what we need, the Emporer Ming the Merciless as coach and 17 Chuck Norris's all hell bent on giving someone's ass a whuppin'!......sorted, now we just need Mr Moran to be convinced lol

I'm afraid that pack of yours sounds a bit powder puffy. Instead I'd go with:

Les Boyd, Kevin Tamati, Joe Price, Bob Jackson, Mike Nicholas and Alan Rathbone.

That should fix it..

Most of if not all of the current pack aren't fit to lace their boots.Oh I'd like to add Les Davidson to that list.

Dave Chisnall too!

LOL...I can just see the picture in the Warrington Guardian now..about page 7...Benny hugging an old granny in a day care centre with big Ashton stood at the back holding a wire scarf above his head.....NASTY

Well, we did have Ashton modelling T-Shirts the other week in t'Guardian.

Interestingly, I've heard Ben has took a hefty insurance payout because of his knee injury, therefore made sense from him to call it quits.

I believe that if had ben Harrison stuck to the strict diet and rehab gym physiology as instructed by the club then he would be in the squad this year or at least part of smiths plans. however he is not

After his aftermatch interview after the Leigh match smith listed off names of players who would come into contention, didn't hear him mention Crosby.

Maybe smith has forgotten Crosby signed on, or did he

Hand injury

Was that caused by his wife squeezing his hand?

Could be.
It may be that his wife had a tough time. Things like that are more important than rugby.

Exactly, please refrain.

Get ryan bailey back

Edited for accuracy

I think you may well be correct, there are problems wherever you look atm, but could the pack be the key one ?


Last year our pack made little ground with the ball and relied heavily on Chris Hill, who played long minutes for a prop. TS relied on Russell scooting, plus Clark to get us up field and in an attacking position. This year there was no Hill, Russell has lost his one and only ability - to make big yards, and the two signings Cooper and Crosby have failed to really strengthen the pack.
When you look at our games this year we spend nearly all the time in our own half with an increasingly desperate side trying to force the play and making matters worse by giving the ball away / penalties. With the pack on the back foot players like Clark and Dwyer are never going to flourish because they rely on fast play the balls and small gaps. As we continue to lose games morale and confidence falls and it just becomes one vicious circle.

As Hill gets match fitter it will help, and perhaps Crosby too will pick up after his absence, but we need to drop Russell, focus on basic rugby without the off-loads, charge-downs, handling errors.

Teams have worked us out. Nullify the quick play the ball by fair means or foul, kick deep into the corners knowing we have few (one) full-length pace merchants and wait for the mistakes to come. And the current team is being extremely benevolent when it comes to mistakes.

What concerns me hugely is that the players surrender so willingly in the tackle and show no right to regain their feet. Opposition players are battling like their lives depend on it to play the ball, and earning lots of penalties and momentum as a result whereas ours show about as much desire to get going as a Frenchman living in a knocking shop.

At least he offered us a bit of bite and was a snide.

Too many choir boys in our pack, even Westwood nowadays.

With our pack with average gains as follows
Philbin 4.71 (four really??)
Sims 5.18 (Yes basher has 5).
Cooper 6.52
Crosby 6.54
Hill 6.63 (coming back from injury)

It's no surprise we cannot get out of our own half. Woeful.

Jack Hughes missing 1/10 tackles tops the defensive frailty list.

How the hell does jullien not get a gig?

Ecause smith have very little faith in our younger players barring currie he will only pick them if forced to through injuries

He's picking Livett and King isn't he...?