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| Quote ="Asgardian13"I think he's a thug first and foremost and a rugby player second, which I why I don't want to see him at Wire.'"
My thoughts exactly.
Also lets not forget the way he dumped on Wigan after they stood by him during his rehabilitation.
Loyalty to Gareth Hock is a seven letter word.
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| Sonny Bill to Salford ...i'm sure he'd be straight back to Union as soon as they upped the ante .
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"Waterhouse is a fantastic player.
I wouldn't swap him for Hock but then I'm not Smith.'"
Exactly what I think.
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| Hock isn't worthy of polishing Waterhouse's boots. In fact, it would probably too intellectually taxing for him.
A player who can win you a game and lose you the next two. No ta.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"You'll give up your ST if Hock signs? Deary me today.'"
Yes ...... He is an idiot whose past is littered with serious character flaws (you work it out), his game is based on thuggery not skill, and he has shown zero loyalty to those who tried to help him get through his self inflicted difficulties. I would have to assume he would show the same disrespect to Wire should his head be turned again in the future.
I have no intention of funding his lifestyle, so if he signs I wont pay to watch ........
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| No. Just no.
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Yes ...... He is an idiot whose past is littered with serious character flaws (you work it out), his game is based on thuggery not skill, and he has shown zero loyalty to those who tried to help him get through his self inflicted difficulties. I would have to assume he would show the same disrespect to Wire should his head be turned again in the future.
I have no intention of funding his lifestyle, so if he signs I wont pay to watch ........'"
I'm not fan of Gareth Hock but if we sign him I'm not going to do something as stupid as give up my Season Ticket or never go to another Wire game. That's just ridiculous.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I heard a whisper that Hock is set to be a Wire for 2014 and not heading for OZ after all.
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Interesting how someone just throws in a comment and almost everyone falls for it. I bet Nosey Parker's seen this and it will be in his column tomorrow. A bit like the Ryan Atkins to RU thread.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I'm not fan of Gareth Hock but if we sign him I'm not going to do something as stupid as give up my Season Ticket or never go to another Wire game. That's just ridiculous.'"
In your opinion though. It's his choice and wouldn't hold it against him if i were a Wire fan. He has been a cretin here. I know him personally and he is ok on his own. It's when he teams up with his unemployed council estate mates the problems start.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"In your opinion though. It's his choice and wouldn't hold it against him if i were a Wire fan. He has been a cretin here. I know him personally and he is ok on his own. It's when he teams up with his unemployed council estate mates the problems start.'"
it was also said that he is buying a house in Warrington, that may help with the problems you associate with a council estate??
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| Can't see it myself. He certainly has his moments of star quality, but more often than not they are isolated to the ones on his neck, and to be honest they're not that cracking
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I'm not fan of Gareth Hock but if we sign him I'm not going to do something as stupid as give up my Season Ticket or never go to another Wire game. That's just ridiculous.'"
Why is it ridiculous?
I don't like him, I don't like things he's done, so I'm definitely not going to spend money watching him disgrace a Wire shirt .... and at some point, he would.
I've brought my lad up to not do things he's done; I instill in junior rugby players to never do certain things he's done; 'Ridiculous' would be to pay money to cheer him, just because he is at Wire ......
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Why is it ridiculous?'"
Because it is. It's petty.
If you dislike someone where you work; are you going to quit your job?
Quote ="BogBrushHead"I don't like him, I don't like things he's done, so I'm definitely not going to spend money watching him disgrace a Wire shirt .... and at some point, he would.'"
I don't like him either, but I'm sorry, I'm not going to be giving up my season ticket just because TS gets a player that I don't like. And if he does disgrace the shirt, no doubt he'll be gone.
Quote ="BogBrushHead"I've brought my lad up to not do things he's done; I instill in junior rugby players to never do certain things he's done; 'Ridiculous' would be to pay money to cheer him, just because he is at Wire ......'"
Did you get rid of your ST when Martin Gleeson played for the club?
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Why is it ridiculous?
I don't like him, I don't like things he's done, so I'm definitely not going to spend money watching him disgrace a Wire shirt .... and at some point, he would.
I've brought my lad up to not do things he's done; I instill in junior rugby players to never do certain things he's done; 'Ridiculous' would be to pay money to cheer him, just because he is at Wire ......'"
And if your lad did stray from your ethics, would you never watch him play rugby again? Could you never forgive him?
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| He enjoys the pantomime villan persona I think. Great player but with all the baggage he brings would he be worth the risk? Salford would seem to be his realistic option, either that or returning to the Piedome.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"And if your lad did stray from your ethics, would you never watch him play rugby again? Could you never forgive him?'"
I'd forgive him, but I wouldn't expect the wider society to embrace him with open arms and cheer him on like it never happened.
There's a huge difference in forgiving a family member an indiscretion and Moran/Smith going out and paying to bring a drug taking thug into what is supposed to be a family orientated club. Great example to set, that is.
Would you condone bringing in Peter Sutcliffe & Robert Mugabe if you thought it would bring GF success? Forget that - I'm guessing some on here would .......
edit: 'No' to the Gleeson question, as the club made it clear they would get rid of him .....
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| I don't like Mr. Hock as much as the next guy, but Peter Sutcliffe? Robert Mugabe? C'mon now...
(Plus, I'm not sure of the RL prowess of either of those)
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| Mugabe and sutcliff. Steady on.
dont even know why in going there as there is a huge difference in scale of wrong doing, but for your info.
tongue in check.
Mugabe hasn't been found guilty of anything and is still the elected ruler of a democracy.
Sutcliff hasn't finished his punishment of his crime.
Hock paid his dues.
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| Gareth hock has signed for Salford, as has Rangi Chase.
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| And Scott Moore. The public houses in Salford will be doing a roaring trade next year.
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| I'm just going off an inside source. Maybe they've back tracked.
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| Like I said...Hock to sign for wire!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"It's not unfeasible, it's unlikely but Hock the player is top quality, not sure I'd want the baggage that comes with him though.
Objectively his game suits our style, hits the line hard and looks for the offload, plays mongrel in defence, tough and uncompromising. It's not as far fetched as it seems but personally, no thank you.'"
He ticks all your boxes but you say no?
I think the left side needs him. Atkins ain't the player he was two seasons ago. Waterhouse ain't as agressive as Anderson was. Short of a bit of biff down that left flank.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"He ticks all your boxes but you say no?
I think the left side needs him. Atkins ain't the player he was two seasons ago. Waterhouse ain't as agressive as Anderson was. Short of a bit of biff down that left flank.'"
He ticks all the boxes? Obviously not, attitude and team cohesion boxes not ticked.
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