Don't always believe what people say. Was it wayne rooney that said something like ' once a blue, always a blue' then he joined united?

I love that quote.



Everytime I hear it, I make a note to write the rumour down so that I can come back to the person and make them look silly.

The amount of stuff I have written down is immense........it's like a receipt from Asda after the missus has gone for the weekly food shop.

Now I know where my money keeps going.....

Sounds like Langer, there were people telling us that Langer would just do the same to us if he came.

I can't wait to see Lyon, Orford and SBW here next year.
Might buy a Season Ticket again.

Don't forget Sinfield. And Lockyer.

Silly me. Overlooked those in the fit of giddiness.

No He said Once a Shrek always a shrek

I was rather hoping we would stop peeing our money up the wall on imports and start to develop British talent.

Isn`t this what the likes of John Bastian and our youth set-up are already doing ?

With the signing of around 8 decent youth prospects fairly recently i would say that is what we are trying to do in developing our own british talent by putting into place a good youth set up which we have lacked for a good few years, the likes of Michael Shenton, Lee Smith, Joe Westerman and Sam Burgess to name a few can be classed as regular SL established players now and that will be our aim to produce a few british players of that sort of ability.

Its something that is going to take time so until then we won`t have much choice to bring in a few imports as their isn`t a lot of quality british talent around to spread between 14 clubs.

I point your attention to the title of this thread plus discussions within the thread talking about which import was arriving next.

And i point your attention to your last post which diverted the subject away from Sonny Bill Williams and onto developing british talent hence what i quoted you on.

Why do people assume that if you direct money from importing players then you will automatically start to generate great youth players?

We are working on the principle that cherry picking Leeds' model and it's operators, we will hopefully reap the same rewards.

so what's our team next year



1.Lockyer
2. Penny
3. Goulding
4. Lyon
5. Hicks
6. Briers
7.Matt Orford
8. Morley
9. Higham
10. Sam burgess
11. Sonny bill
12. Westwood
13. Sinfield



No wonder we need foreign bank accounts

you should cherry pick ours instead

We want to win SL mate.

I think you will find Leeds will have to win everything until (and including) 2011 to catch up with our trophy haul for the SL era.

you anywhere near Wigan yet ?

nearer than you or anyone else for that matter sunshine

I bet you love waking up and thinking 'i love supporting the 2nd best team in SL

Yet i brag that we are worlds best hoping no one looks at the record books.


I just might go on the Swinton site later and brag how much better Warrington are compared to them'

Why? Wellens and Roby in the past ten years is nothing to crow about.

If we'd produced Wellens, Graham, Roby, Stankevich, Bennett, Edmondson, Clough and so on in the last decade, we'd be crowing about it big time.

The way some of our fans wet themselves with excitement about the likes of Pickersgill and Riley 'rising through the ranks' we'd probably be adding Jonkers, Stewart, Moore, Hardman and Bracek to that list as well.

If we are talking real quality, all we've produced is Paul Wood.

I'd rather copy Leeds formula of the two.

Leeds success of the last five years has been built around the youth system, even at times being able to almost deliver them a new team complete with a new set of pivots (Sinfield, Diskin, McGuire, Burrow, Mathers) and they are reaping the rewards of this now. Similirly to ourselves, I think Leeds had a time, when they identified that their youth system was inept, they addressed it, started again and then had to wait for the sort of 'acorns to grow' if you will. I think we all acknowledge that up until what, 5 years ago ? Our junior set up was shambolic, then the introduction of squadbuilder et al was the first steps to putting this right, then service areas and whatnot, and now the tip of the iceberg being Bastian & his merry men providing arguably the best junior set up in RL, put it this way there's nobody i'd rather have, ie, It couldn't be in safer hands.

We've just got to wait, we've had a few through the system in recent years, time will tell if they are good enough, early indications are that Harrison, Mitchell, Riley, Penny, Cooper and less so Pickersgill, Blythe, McCarthy all have futures, some hopefully big futures. These aren't really products of the 'Bastian era', his efforts will probably come to fruition 2012 onwards you'd think (at the earliest).

You look at SL, how many players kicking about that went through Leeds, and you realise how many players their systems picked up, your Dowes, Scruton, Murrell, Raynor, Calderwood and such. You add that to what they've got now, and I bet they could almost field, if not field a 'youth produced 17' that would be a match for anyone.

I guess Saints have produced 'quality wise' more than us, ie, Roby, Graham, Wellens being the stand outs, and now it looks as if they've got another crop which similarly to ours, wime will tell, but there's certainly promise there, I just think Leeds are what everyone should aim to be, youth wise. (Or maybe they were, no we've got who they had.

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Graham and Clough arent bad either, as are Wilkin and Gardner who although have come from other clubs have done so well before they werre established players. I'd say we deserve some credit for their progression, if they were at Wire they would have been hounded out of the club early doors for not being ace in their first season.

I also note with interest the way you select your date so we cant include Cunnngham. He still plays for us, and is local produced so add that to the list too.

You of all people know of our total disregard for the youth set-up up until five years ago.

The term quality was used, that is applicable to Wellens, Graham and Roby. The rest are squad fillers or unproven youngsters. The three listed have gone on to become regular internationals.