No finer drummer than PC in my book. Soured his fine reputation with his slushy solo stuff imo but Genesis live with him and Chester Thompson were fantastic. Was lucky enough to see them when Steve Hackett was still with them (77) their finest hour for me.

You lucky ......, MKC. My first gig of their's was '82 (I was 13). The tour you mention is now my new Avatar. It's still (imo) the best live album of all time. Agree with your Collins comments (although his first 3 albums had some tracks on, which are fantastic), he's known to the majority of people as a balladeer - shame really.

With regards to the poll for best drummer, I'm shaking my head as to why there's no Neil Peart (known as the drummers drummer). Mind you, if you look at the judges, we have such informed people as Johnathon Ross to thank for that.

Did Bill Bruford or get a mention in the drummers poll? He and PC have always been the best of them imo.
Brufords solo albums from late seventies/early eighties were stunning. Just noticed you've changed Duke to Seconds Out - fantastic album which became the benchmark for live albums for years to come. Even now I've not heard one to even come close. Someone on here has got Wind and Wuthering as their avatar so it looks like we aren't the only ones to still appreciate Britains finest proggers. Which band did Neil Peart play in? Know the name but can't remember the band.

correct Adam and the Antz produced some of their best stuff in 1979 Car trouble and Zerox were a couple of their finest songs sadly after 1981 it went rapidly down hill ...Stand and deliver while a favourite of mine and a good enough song started him (Adam ant) on the way to the selling of his soul....
and when they released Prince Charming which was awful (a rip off of a rolf Harris "classic"...!!! ) the end was nigh
it did however go straight to number one but the death knell had been sounded in my opinion, then we had to endure stuff like Ant Rap and Puss in boots .....so sad....

I have a vivid memory from around 1978/79 of being dragged round Chester by my mum to do some shopping, and I saw my first proper punks, chains, big mohicans, the works they were quite scary at the time, and I saw one with "adam and the antz" studded into the back of his leather jacket, i remember thinking that must be a cool band, I bet a couple of years later that punk had re arranged the studs to make a different bands name....

I cannot stand Phil flipppin Collins, he makes my blood boil.

The best news i heard last year was that he was hanging his sticks up because drumming was hurting his back.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

he does my nut in

"a bombardment of the most unsubtle, one-dimensional noise"
is a quote I liked when someone described there biggest hit....

yeah they are a group of young kids making a band but they arent my cup of tea, and so far removed from What Stuart Adamson was its untrue...


The Kooks may have been a better example for you.

re that show on BBC, anyone who can claim Jack White as a top guitarist has ZERO and I mean ZERO credibility. Just an excuse for people to get nostalgic.

Bruford was one of the "talking heads" in the doc., but from what I remember he wasn't in the list (Collins, Bonham, Moon, Copeland, Baker, Mitchell, Ullrich and a couple of others, the list is on the Radio 2 website). Think it's Tezzerwolf (sp) that's got Wind & Wuthering as his Avatar.

Gazmeister, not very nice to hear that the "best news you've heard all year" is a guy's in considerable pain, that he's had to give up something he's brilliant at.


Do you laugh at rugby players injurys?
Some of his solo stuff is poor, but I'd wager you've never heard his Genesis input (drumming), except stuff that's got into the charts/had radio airplay, or you wouldn't make such a crass comment.

To be honest, from what I've seen of the series, it's a bit of a love-in for Led Zep (understandable) and Nirvana (??? do me a favour- they're OK, BUT COME ON)

Im gonna go against all popular grain and say.. I dont see the big fuss with Led Zep.
Maybe it's because 'I wasn't there' but they just dont do it for me

Fair play to you, Dico. As long as you've made the effort to give them a chance, and you've made your own mind up.
It annoys me when people say they are into bands, just because they are perceived to be "cool".

The one thing that really p155e5 me off with music is the term "guilty pleasure". Just enjoy the song/artist, and to hell with what other people/"the music police" say.

Whether you like the band or not, Joey Jordison from Slipknot is a better drummer than any of the ones mentioned. I have a relative who teaches drums and he can't work out how he does some of the things he does, his foot speed is phenomenal. There is even an interesting clip of him playing live (instead of Lars) with Metallica and he makes them a much better band!

btw has anyone heard the new album by Slash yet? It is a really mixed bag but there are a couple of great tracks, two with Lemmy and Andrew Stockdale are rocking and there is a great jam with Dave Grohl and Izzy Stradlin. However best not mention the one with Fergie off of the Black Eyed Peas.

Quote ="matt king's cat"Did Bill Bruford or get a mention in the drummers poll? He and PC have always been the best of them imo. Brufords solo albums from late seventies/early eighties were stunning. Just noticed you've changed Duke to Seconds Out - fantastic album which became the benchmark for live albums for years to come. Even now I've not heard one to even come close. Someone on here has got Wind and Wuthering as their avatar so it looks like we aren't the only ones to still appreciate Britains finest proggers. Which band did Neil Peart play in? Know the name but can't remember the band.'" Rush. And yes he is/was a good drummer. Looking at 'Total Drums' top 100 they have; 3 Carl Palmer 2 John Bonham 1 Neal Peart www.total-drums.com/drummers-2.html Thinking about it, Dave Grohl and Dave Lombardo are also worth a shout.

Quote ="matt king's cat"Did Bill Bruford or get a mention in the drummers poll? He and PC have always been the best of them imo. Brufords solo albums from late seventies/early eighties were stunning. Just noticed you've changed Duke to Seconds Out - fantastic album which became the benchmark for live albums for years to come. Even now I've not heard one to even come close. Someone on here has got Wind and Wuthering as their avatar so it looks like we aren't the only ones to still appreciate Britains finest proggers. Which band did Neil Peart play in? Know the name but can't remember the band.'" Rush. And yes he is/was a good drummer. Looking at 'Total Drums' top 100 they have; 3 Carl Palmer 2 John Bonham 1 Neal Peart www.total-drums.com/drummers-2.html Thinking about it, Dave Grohl and Dave Lombardo are also worth a shout.

Yes and I'm sure Westlife will disagree in 20 years time when I say they were crap as well

I was at that show with Joey playing instead of Lars; Download 04 if i recall the year correctly. A few other drummers stepped in as well. Again, personally although Joey's phenominal I just get the feeling he, like Travis Barker, are overrated. Personally, and again many disagreed, I prefered the Rev from Avenged in almost every way as a metal drummer. Just found him far more interesting. That aussie bloke from Parkway Drive has massive potential too imo

..and this is the problem I had with that show. Although its great to look on times gone by, the guitarist show basically ended as punk came along when in reality (like with sportsmen/women imho) there have been much more technically gifted musicians in modern day (Dream Theater anyone??). hendrix was great and a revolution, was he a great technical guitarist.. not really.

As for the Slash album, I haven't checked that out yet, didn't like the one song I heard, sounded like every other rocky mainstream compressed production I would hear. I will give it a listen at some point though.

Late 70's/very early 80's were great. From there until early 90's was bobbins.

ASHES TO ASHES FTW!

The 80's look so great with that show, probably e in reality with Thatcher but the music wouldof probably been my saving grace, wasn't born until '90.

I was born in the 60's. A golden era for music was the mid 70's to mid 80's.

Saw some classic bands in my time. Genesis god knows how many times but the highlight was in 1985 I think at Milton Keynes with Gabriel rejoining for a one off. Also saw U2 at Milton Keynes Bowl.

Special mention also for Big Country, saw a classic gig in Liverpool with them.

Dico if you cant into Led Zep I would suggest just listening to Dazed and |confused.

Don't think we'll get Dico on this one, Wirral. My personal fave of theirs is Since I've Been Loving You. What a song!!!!

I've heard it all today, 80's had the best music in this thread and 80's had the best fashion sense in the office....weird, weird day.

i used to tape it as i was about 11-12 when it was on a say to myself "one day i'll be going in that great place"

what a let down about 5 years later

Quote ="DJ Birchy Ford Clinic"i used to tape it as i was about 11-12 when it was on a say to myself "one day i'll be going in that great place" what a let down about 5 years later'" If i remember right, they used to open the show with this. I think i went Smiths when it was on once, once was deffo enough lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WaKf6aNQo

Quote ="DJ Birchy Ford Clinic"i used to tape it as i was about 11-12 when it was on a say to myself "one day i'll be going in that great place" what a let down about 5 years later'" If i remember right, they used to open the show with this. I think i went Smiths when it was on once, once was deffo enough lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WaKf6aNQo

the 80's was a weird time to grow up, i remember being 8 or 9 and wondering why there was a man called George calling himself Boy but dressing like a woman and a woman called Alf who looked like a man. Annie Lennox & Marilyn (a bloke) also looked the wrong way round for me. I also remember asking my mum why Relax was banned as they words "when you wanna cum" did not mean much to a 9 year old, my mum just said "ermmm not sure son, sounds ok to me too".

Quote ="Rob Wire"If i remember right, they used to open the show with this. I think i went Smiths when it was on once, once was deffo enough lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WaKf6aNQo'" yeah spot on robbie, had that on Vinyl (a big CD for our younger posters) they also played this cracker www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vjpyznTOE

Quote ="Rob Wire"If i remember right, they used to open the show with this. I think i went Smiths when it was on once, once was deffo enough lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WaKf6aNQo'" yeah spot on robbie, had that on Vinyl (a big CD for our younger posters) they also played this cracker www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vjpyznTOE

Yeh, top tune that....

That's what we're trying to do with Ryker Sear. All original music, composed by the band, all the music recorded by band members only. Trivia connection re your love of Adam and the Ants: Ryker Sear logo and album cover designed by David Storey (creator of the famous 80s 'two-tone' style for The Specials). David Storey was a mate of Adam at Hornsey Art College in the 1970s.