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| Quote ="FireWire"Thankfully most people on here know their rugby, and have Clarke nowhere near our strongest 17.'"
Our form since he returned for Higham has been so-so to say the least. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Our form since he returned for Higham has been so-so to say the least.'"
Absolutely, our last two losses are all down to Clarke of course, or perhaps its Kevin Penny's fault? |
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Mine Would Be:
Mathers
Hicks
King
Atkins
Riley
Briers
Myler
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
L.Anderson
Westwood
Harrison
Higham
V.Anderson
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| Quote ="MikeCarlton"Mine Would Be:
Mathers
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Briers
Myler
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
L.Anderson
Westwood
Harrison
Higham
V.Anderson
Solomona
Wood'"
same really atm. wqould see how clarke plays until higham comes back. |
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| Quote ="pocket*trout"Clarke in for Higham.'"
Are you mad? Higham is a far better impact hooker than Clarke |
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Are you mad? Higham is a far better impact hooker than Clarke'"
Clarke is a very versatile player. Higham can only play in one position, he may be a far better impact player but that is about all. |
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Are you mad? Higham is a far better impact hooker than Clarke'"
Clarke had more of an impact on last weeks Saints game than I've ever seen Higham have on any Saints fixture. |
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| Quote ="laboratoire garnier"Absolutely, our last two losses are all down to Clarke of course, or perhaps its Kevin Penny's fault?'"
I didn't say that. I made a valid observation of our form and Clarkes return. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"I didn't say that. I made a valid observation of our form and Clarkes return.'"
Expanding your criteria a little further; Wins in Perpignan - one from five. Wins against Saints non from a gazillion. |
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Expanding your criteria a little further; Wins in Perpignan - one from five. Wins against Saints non from a gazillion.'"
How would the past performance influence the current? |
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Anybody who doesn't have Bridge in the centres is dumb.
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| Quote ="Wires71"How would the past performance influence the current?'"
Why look at performance alone?
Perpignan - Heat, travel.
Saints - Anybody's guess? |
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Quote ="JWP"Clarke had more of an impact on last weeks Saints game than I've ever seen Higham have on any Saints fixture.'"
Higham has played twice for Warrington against St Helens, so not much to go on. Admittedly he did score a try in one.
Comparing the 2009 stats between Higham and Clarke shows the former to be well on top in most areas. Despite Higham playing two games less he was well ahead on metres, carries, marker tackles, tackles, offloads, tries, missed tackles, runs from DH. Clarke wins on penalties, kicks, try assists.
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Quote ="JWP"Clarke had more of an impact on last weeks Saints game than I've ever seen Higham have on any Saints fixture.'"
Higham has played twice for Warrington against St Helens, so not much to go on. Admittedly he did score a try in one.
Comparing the 2009 stats between Higham and Clarke shows the former to be well on top in most areas. Despite Higham playing two games less he was well ahead on metres, carries, marker tackles, tackles, offloads, tries, missed tackles, runs from DH. Clarke wins on penalties, kicks, try assists.
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Quote ="Wires71"Higham has played twice for Warrington against St Helens, so not much to go on. Admittedly he did score a try in one.
Comparing the 2009 stats between Higham and Clarke shows the former to be well on top in most areas. Despite Higham playing two games less he was well ahead on metres, carries, marker tackles, tackles, offloads, tries, missed tackles, runs from DH. Clarke wins on penalties, kicks, try assists.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Only now though is Clarke playing as an 'imapct hooker', so probably best to look at their 2010 stats in a few weeks time when they're carrying out the same role. |
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Quote ="Wires71"Higham has played twice for Warrington against St Helens, so not much to go on. Admittedly he did score a try in one.
Comparing the 2009 stats between Higham and Clarke shows the former to be well on top in most areas. Despite Higham playing two games less he was well ahead on metres, carries, marker tackles, tackles, offloads, tries, missed tackles, runs from DH. Clarke wins on penalties, kicks, try assists.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Only now though is Clarke playing as an 'imapct hooker', so probably best to look at their 2010 stats in a few weeks time when they're carrying out the same role. | |
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| Quote ="JWP"Only now though is Clarke playing as an 'imapct hooker', so probably best to look at their 2010 stats in a few weeks time when they're carrying out the same role.'"
Do impact hookers make more tackles?
There shoud be a stat for 3rd man in tackles and looping murder balls from DH. Clarke would win hands down  |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Do impact hookers make more tackles?
There shoud be a stat for 3rd man in tackles and looping murder balls from DH. Clarke would win hands down
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I'm not saying that.
I'm saying last week Clarke scored, ran more from DH than I've seen before, looked to create etc, so the new Clarke (2010 version - carrying out what TS wants) will be very different from say the 2009 version, 2008 version when he will have had a very different specific role.
Best to judge him when we've seem him carry out this role for a short while. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Do impact hookers make more tackles?
There shoud be a stat for 3rd man in tackles and looping murder balls from DH. Clarke would win hands down
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I agree - that looping murder ball from Clarke to Westwood for his first try was a shocker. You could see that in the reaction of the rest of the team. |
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The worst passer from DH of all our hookers is Higham, then Monaghan. Clarke is the best. However, Monaghan is a better all round player.
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| Quote ="laboratoire garnier"I agree - that looping murder ball from Clarke to Westwood for his first try was a shocker. You could see that in the reaction of the rest of the team.'"
And the 3rd tackle stat busting flops?
Anyway I have no axe to grind, just making an observation. I am sure JC will have a blinder tomorrow. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"And the 3rd tackle stat busting flops?'"
He probably does do some of that. However I want to judge him on the 2010 Tony Smith version rather than previous incarnations. If TS can improve his game in the way he has improved other, similarly experienced players, then who knows what he might achieve. He was certainly very good last week.
Lets hope he does have a blinder tomorrow, as you say. |
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| Quote ="laboratoire garnier"He probably does do some of that. However I want to judge him on the 2010 Tony Smith version rather than previous incarnations. If TS can improve his game in the way he has improved other, similarly experienced players, then who knows what he might achieve. He was certainly very good last week.
Lets hope he does have a blinder tomorrow, as you say.'"
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It's obviously Cullen's fault that Clarke has hitherto been cack.
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Clarke is the best hooker in the world IMO.
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Was it Chris Leikvoll who said Jon Clarke was the Warrington player who would do well in the NRL?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Was it Chris Leikvoll who said Jon Clarke was the Warrington player who would do well in the NRL?'"
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