Over on the comedy club (Redvee) they not having it they are just crap it’s Thaler that is lol

Discipline, fitness and resilience need some serious attention. Twice we gave away a penalty while we’re on their line and they’re under pressure. Twice Welsby breaks on kick return. Stupidity from Williams and Drinkwater on those penalties.

We need to learn to be comfortable in chaos. That’s just to stop leaking points, not even starting in the lack of creativity.

Effort was there, completed well, but give ourselves too much to do.

I'd guess Williams is carrying quite an injury. Missed our two big props. A great improvement on last year. Loads of effort but not good enough really.

Well we can stop taking the tramodol the pain is over for this season.

I'm surprised at the negative currie comments. I don't see him as being the problem at all

Bit harsh on Thaler… I thought he was one of their better players today.

Totally agree.

They don't see how favourably officiated they are at all do they? Walmsley won't get a 2 game ban but he absolutely deserves it. I think he made one single ptb today that was a legal one, how many times was he penalised fornincorrect ptb or stepping off the mark?

Interesting comments on there saying Bullock should have been a red. They got lucky with Walmsley. Walmsley was direct contact with the head, thats a red. Bullock was clearly shoulder first and he wrapped his arms. He just hit harder. They don't like it tough Saints, they are a team of fairies.

He isn't. He's the only one in our team willing to hit the ball at the line. Only one willing to run them. He can be a little laxy in defence but thats maybe 1 tackle in a 100, it just often results in a break so its magnified. I think Currie is a good player. He's nowhere near a weak enough link to ship off.

Williams, Drinkwater, Matautia, Kasiano, Harrison, Nicholson are all not good enough really. The latter two are squad players for me, not first choice. The middle two are championship level at best. Drinkwater can kick and thats it. Williams is just lazy, he's never been the level of hype people put on him. As somebody else said - Flat Track Bully.

Compare his effort levels vs Crowther. He never gets stuck in, avoids the hard take up balls and since his injury 4 years ago has never been the attacking threat again to make up for it. His contraxt extension is crazy in my opinion.

We need a 2nd rower that offers more.

It is very sad that "fans" throw so much crap at individuals ... unfortunately it won't change. It seems to make them feel better.

Gallant effort and no shame in defeat. We had more strike out wide but didn't get enough good ball out there. Saints scored one very dodgy try and Bullock got sinbinned for no other reason than Walmsley did so he needed to even it out. Good effort Wire.

I don't see it that way but it's fine to disagree mate

Ugh god, you're back with your clap or be silent mantra. Won't miss you in the off season Kim Jong.

I don't hate on drinkwater he is what he is - I think defensively he's OK and yeah he can kick. Williams for me just doesn't do near enough to influence a game considering he's our star man. Harrison and Nicholson I agree but I'd absoluteky want to keep them.

He is far away our best chaser of kicks, he is more often than not the first one to meet an attacker in defence, he makes a lot of good ditch tackles. We need a better halfback to offer HIM more.

Can someone explain "Flat Track Bully" for me?

flat-track bully in British English
informal. noun. a sportsperson who dominates inferior opposition, but who cannot beat top-level opponents.

Only real positive for me this season is getting rid of Powell. Huge gamble on Burgess but I'm looking forward to it.

I do like to hear the counter argument/point.

For me he always goes through the motions, rarely hits a line (rarely, not never I'll add) and always seems to be that yard or 2 behind where he needs to be on conceded tries.

I feel we can upgrade on Currie as i don't see anything than bog standard.

I'll contradict myself and say that every coach we've had has clearly rated him so maybe it's my own failings to see what he offers.

I agree should have been a red

Not sure why this is a Currie hate thread, for me he was one of our most aggressive players in the first quarter when we needed to scrap to stay in the game and had a decent game overall.

Your lot definitely didn't like that did they. Lee's hasn't been given a dose of his own medicine quite like that before. Smashed him!

He does go through the motions sometimes, but largely thats when everyone else around him is too. I fully believe he has more enthusiasm in defence than many of the people we have on the field at any given time. Is he as aggressive as say, Walker or Clark? No. Is his line speed still above average compared to most others? Easily. He's always pressuring the full back on kicks, got good hands and usually puts Ratch in space. He can be lazy, and we can improve on him definitely. But you could say that about a good 75% of our team.