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Oh dear, here he is again (redvee69), can't help himself can he!
keep sticking the boot in pal.
don't forget the higher you climb the further you fall,
you might think you are clever & funny but spouting guff about the Wire but our day will come!
By the way can I borrow your jag on Wednesday, have some crap taking to the tip.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Didn’t realise I would have to use an emoji on that post!'"
I can't be doing with Emoji's, so my reply would still be the same, but if I've missed your point CH, then what was it?
It would be great to unearth the likes of Sculthorpe (Paul, not Danny) or Harris again, yet I'd hate to think of us selling them off. However, there's a few from Bradford who wished they hadn't bought Harris. |
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I can't be doing with Emoji's, so my reply would still be the same, but if I've missed your point CH, then what was it?
It would be great to unearth the likes of Sculthorpe (Paul, not Danny) or Harris again, yet I'd hate to think of us selling them off. However, there's a few from Bradford who wished they hadn't bought Harris.'"
It was “tongue in cheek”, given they were 2 of the best players of 5heir generation (domestically). |
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Remember we were supposed to be in the running to sign Harris back when he came back from Welsh RU.
There was even a 'fake news' press release doing the rounds that tricked some people in the media, with a mock up of Iestyn's head photoshopped on Mark Hilton's body so it looked like he was wearing a Wire kit.
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Quote ="Boss Hog"Currie played for Warrington`s 1st team when he was 17, he also watched him play for Warrington`s Academy team prior to that.
Mike Gregory was signed from St Pats, I agree. I saw him play for Warrington A team, immediately after he turned pro.
Moving from an amateur team and then playing for a professional team`s reserves, was the recognised way of progressing at that time. There was no Academy system in those days
He was one of those rare talents that didn`t need much time in the reserve system.'"
Yes, sorry I was wrong on the dates for Ben.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... er-league/
[iSigning with Wolves: I was with Wigan Scholarship from aged 12 to 16 and then had the choice of several Super League clubs. My dad and I had a look around the clubs that made offers and we both thought Warrington was best
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If he was in the first team at 17, I think it's fair to say his substantive development was from 12-16 at Wigan.
Yes Mike Greg was a rare talent indeed and again could not be considered a "product" of any Warrington youth development because as you say there was no system in place.
So how many international class players have we produced since we tried developing our own players? |
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Quote ="Boss Hog"Currie played for Warrington`s 1st team when he was 17, he also watched him play for Warrington`s Academy team prior to that.
Mike Gregory was signed from St Pats, I agree. I saw him play for Warrington A team, immediately after he turned pro.
Moving from an amateur team and then playing for a professional team`s reserves, was the recognised way of progressing at that time. There was no Academy system in those days
He was one of those rare talents that didn`t need much time in the reserve system.'"
Yes, sorry I was wrong on the dates for Ben.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... er-league/
[iSigning with Wolves: I was with Wigan Scholarship from aged 12 to 16 and then had the choice of several Super League clubs. My dad and I had a look around the clubs that made offers and we both thought Warrington was best
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If he was in the first team at 17, I think it's fair to say his substantive development was from 12-16 at Wigan.
Yes Mike Greg was a rare talent indeed and again could not be considered a "product" of any Warrington youth development because as you say there was no system in place.
So how many international class players have we produced since we tried developing our own players? | |
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think arguing too much about who was produced by where is missing the bigger picture. It's having access to quality players from your youth system. If you sign a player aged 18 from another team's youth system and he goes on to be a great player you get the benefit, they don't. It's like when people get stressed about whether a player was born in Warrington or Wigan or if he was born in Newton-le-Willows does this count as home grown or not. Arsenal picked up Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona as a 15 year old and they got the benefit of him for a while so anyone meeting the Fabregas criteria counts as home grown.
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I think this area is very important though as it's indicative of our ability of top talent identification at an early age (wherever they live), ability to compete with rival clubs for said top talent to recruit them and then the ability to develop them into top class players. We are not good at this, no point in ignoring the fact, we need to address it. |
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