now what did he say about us last season, he should look at his team first if he's in job next week

I believe after them beating us 70-6 he stated it was not the players but the leadership of the club. I can only assume that a man of his "interigity" and "leadership skills" would apply that to himself when looking at a club that won the treble last year and 3 months later is second from bottom of SL.

I remember he very publicly berated Dr K's leadership skills. MK is still a multi-millionaire business person, he is a rugby coach responsible for taking a top team to people discussing relegation in s matter of months.

An excellent defence from Salford,the second Leeds try was off a forward pass,Salfords kicking game put big pressure on Leeds all night.Impressed with Dobson and Lui at half back.Leeds with the players they have will come good again to much class to be down at the foot of the table.

I just wonder if he has had, or will have the good grace to publicly say how much Salford have improved since that hammering last year, and congratulate those involved, including Mr Koukash. Does anyone think he will?

I would imagine he will be more concerned with his own team. Yes we have improved, and our defence was outstanding, but Leeds were poor. They performed like a bottom 4 team last night and only came alive in the last five minutes. We have played better than last night against Leeds and lost, fir example last season and the Challenge Cup game a few years back.

To be honest McDermott's comments last year may have been unpalatable for certain folk to swallow , nonetheless, he was right to voice his opinion as the Club at that particular time was flirting with behind the scenes backhanded rig morales and all sorts of financial misdemeanours regarding certain affiliates surrounding the Club. it was internally in turmoil and was being run Mafioso style. McDermott was right to voice his opinions in my eyes.

But let's give credit where it's due as Marwan has acknowledged the errors of his ways and has provenly took a few steps back and let Tim run the show. Unfortunately, a skeleton has been unearthed within his closet and needs dealing with and swiftly moving on from. Marwan is on the straight and narrow and that can only be good for us. He's a success we just have to be a little more patient because he's the right man to steer us. No doubt.

The silence from Headingley following last night's match is deafening. Quite right. They should not be passing comments on us whether we win or lose (apart from maybe a gracious 'congratulations' as any decent loser would do, but having heard the details of last night's press conference there was not even that).

McDermott had absolutely no right to speak about our club the way he did last year (certainly not in a post-match interview as he did). Our business is exactly that.

Well if that's the case how dare you to have an opinion..

Having an opinion as a mere fan is one thing. Voicing your thoughts on how an opposing organisation should be run (from a lofty position in a rival competitor) and the impact that is having on their staff is quite another. You know that full well Stanley.

Come on let your hair down, he McDermott obviously knows a hell of a lot more what was going on than you'll ever come into knowing. And McDermott didn't exactly throw the full dirty linen out in the garden did he, McDermott aired an opinion which everybody is entitled to, he could have elaborated extensively more information which he obviously kept schtum about. The Club deserves to be highlighted for the Mafioso turmoiled dodgy dealings it was undoubtedly delving heavily into.

Have a look at the Rhinos site and listen to their coaches assessment of last nights match.

Just watched the interview, And what the hell has that got to do with the price of cheese.

It's the floods I tell you. That's his excuse! What a twerp he is.

To deem McDermott ''a Twerp'' for having a horrendous 2016 after the unprecedented season Leeds had last year is utterly foolish. It took Fergie numerous times to rebuild and transcend Championship winning squads throughout his illustrious reign. I'd have McDermott as coach in a heartbeat, not that it will ever happen.

I found that statement of his quite pointless. 'We haven't been able to do what we want in training' just screams to me that he isn't trying hard enough. Just go somewhere where there isn't any floods. Simple really.

I feel that GH will bill bringing down the sack-hammer pretty soon if McD doesn't get a grip. Good players don't become bad ones overnight. It looks from outside as though he has lost the dressing room/plot.

Neither do good coaches.

And what did he do at London?

To be fair Wayne Bennett would probably have struggled to achieve results in that job. London have not exactly gone from strength to strength since Mcdermott left have they?

Flat Stanley. I didn't call him a twerp for having a horrendous 2016 as you allege. It is for blaming the floods for the latest defeat and for his outburst last year when we lost at Leeds with a heavily depleted team due to injuries and suspensions. As far as I can tell, he hasn't had the grace to acknowledge the massive improvement in the Reds performance compared to last year. If he hadn't had his outburst last year, there would have been no need to do so. With his outburst last year, it would have been the decent thing to do.

Ever considered that in Brian McDermots world we haven't improved, just his side have declined beyond comprehension from last year!

Sadly I try to avoid Messrs Wane and Dermott in their post-matches' interviews and comments: they rarely explain the game but give out excuses or challenging opinions. This is a pity as both clubs have produced excellent rugby and I would like to get an understanding of what made them do what they did.
Interesting, if you wander over different forums (fori?) on different sites as I have. There's a link between some of their fans' criticisms. Some Wiganers bemoan the dependance on home-produced players over buying in Aussies. Some Loiners are screaming for a play-maker and suggesting from overseas. Compare this to the several smug trolls who bemoaned our club's "mercenaries" and pointed to their success as they develop their own players, so do not need to panic buy. Mmm?

I agree with DirkDiggler's comment.

Fora I think

I agree with the rest of what you say. Some Wigan fans have been complaining about Wane's signings for years saying they have t been as good as the ones they're replacing and, whilst appreciating the quality of the kids coming through, wanting more quality experienced players through the spine. But they've still reached the last 3 grand finals winning 1

Leeds have been average a few times early in the season for a few seasons before last year coming good in time for the play offs so will be interesting to see how they are at the back end of this season. It's hard to see them making the top 4 this year but it's far from impossible. They were always going to miss peacock and sinfield and I was surprised they didn't go for a new half back to replace sir Kev