Statement "I'd argue that the pass wasn't forward. It went forward but he passed it backwards". This after Stefan Ratchford passed it about five yards forward crossing one of the yardage lines.
He's a bigger twerp than the Bald one on sky.
Is it any wonder we have the inconsistency from the officials when he was controller for a number of years.

I find his involvement and contribution extremely irritating. The rules of RL change far too often (compared to other sports) and to protect the officials we often here the words open to interpretation. This term basically is an excuse for referees getting decisions wrong so often.

A start to better officiating would be to stop tinkering with the rules every single year and over complicating the game for players and spectators. I personally believe this is why football is far more popular. Football has fewer rules and is much easier to understand.

He is shocking but gives a great insight into his career as a first grade ref. he's an idiot who see's the game from an abstract position.

Like the Griffin send off. He says it was defo a red card? Then why didn't he or other refs send blokes off every other game?

There was a similar incident to Griffin's by a Huddersfield player today and it resulted in nothing more than a penalty and a telling off. Where is the consistency?

If my memory serves me right he was interviewed once on GMR when he said the momentum rule was an "invention of Sky" either a pass was forward or not. Now he appears to be in the employ of Sky saying the opposite.

If you understood the laws of physics you'd see how a ball passed backwards relative to the direction of travel of both the passer and receiver can still travel forwards. In fact in a fast flowing move almost all passes would be classed as forward and the game would grind to a halt if they weren't allowed.

Simple, Mr Pinner, look at what the passer's hands are doing. You will see if the pass is set as a proper pass.

Many interpretations are from people who are arguing how many props are dancing on the head of a pin (or pinner ?). There is a simple way of deciding what is happening.

I go back to the greats of the past particularily William of Ockham. As Chico would say: "Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate" Or as Butcher would put it: "Keep It Simple, Stupid". Occam's razor reminds us to look at the simplest way of doing something. Look at the hands and it is obvious if the pass is deliberately set to go level of forward. We do not need the thick rule book of Union and its lawyer-like deliberations.

I thought I had a firm grasp of the rules until Cummings came on the commentary team!!

So Mr Pinner, If you're travelling at 45 degrees to the try line and you pass it with a backward motion and it at 40 degrees to the try line it's still passed with a backward motion. It's still classed as a backward pass is it? Or should we start getting a protractor out to see what angle the players running at, what angle his hands are at, what speed he's running at and use a bit of Trigonometry to work out the future projectory. Yes that seems very simple!!

I think it tells you everything when Sky have a former referee/match officials director on the commentary team trying to justify or explain refereeing decisions. The panel can't even agree on most things that happen. There are people making a living by tinkering with the rules every year and have they become too complex to attract new supporters to rugby league en masse? They should be working to a directive of simplifying the rules so potential new followers pick it up quicker.

Tell me how many rule changes there have been in football compared to rugby league over the past 30 years? There have been hundreds in rugby league, how many in football? Back pass rule, goal line technology, 5 subs, 3 points for a win, added time board and vanishing spray to my knowledge. It seems RL has an inferiority complex and always believe they must make changes/improvements to the detriment of making it more difficult for supporters to keep up, or new fans understand the rules. Why is football so much more popular than rugby? It's far easier for people to understand the rules. Simple!!

I never said it was simple. I also don't think the "momentum rule" always works. As with a lot of RL rules its largely down to interpretation. Some passes are obviously forward, some are passed backwards but travel forwards because of the speed the passer and receiver are travelling at. The longer the pass the worse these passes look. Luckily I'm not a ref so I don't have to decide.

Very simple from my point of view. Cummins is a clown! Always has been and always will be. Sky fees keep going up to pay idiots like him. I don't listen to him anymore as I watch the games on mute nowadays with some calming Led Zeppelin on in the background, Bliss!