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| did i read it right 12K to 15K and putting planning permission this week? Isnt this the same stage as us when we went down to the town hall or is it a stage before that?
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| it will be built before are stadium!
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| Quote ="salford4life"it will be built before are stadium!'"
Is it just me or does anyone else not get that point????
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Is it just me or does anyone else not get that point????'"
Alas, long gone our the days that are upbringing brought about proper use of grammor and speling.
I blame the Club for are predicament.
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| the plan view doesn't match their rendered drawings. the plan shows that the stadium has a roof at the corners and the other images show that the corners are open. i know its a tender stage representation but surely they should have a better idea of what the final build will look like.
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| They are phased drawings. 4 individual stands will be built separately, however the corners can be covered and seated to raise the capacity from 12 to 15 thousand.
The crucial element in this venture is the business park which will pay for the build of the stadium. Meaning as soon as we get planning permission there will be no worries of funding. As the complex will provide the region with 1000's of job no-one can really see anything but this being pushed through to provide much needed security for the common man and councillor alike.
FWIW i think nearly every fan would prefer a stadium with filled in corners, but as i imagine you can understand, our principle concern is getting the bloody thing built! But all is looking VERY rosey over here.
Hope that clears any confusion.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"The crucial element in this venture is the business park which will pay for the build of the stadium. Meaning as soon as we get planning permission there will be no worries of funding. As the complex will provide the region with 1000's of job no-one can really see anything but this being pushed through to provide much needed security for the common man and councillor alike.'"
Don't want to seem pessimistic but that sounds worryingly familiar
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| i hope you dont have the same grief we've had over ours but trust me, it will not be a smooth process
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| I get the impression that you were derailed by the public enquiry because of the land use, and by the time that was sorted, the recession hit all the potential investors. Maybe just bad timing. People are expecting work to start on ours by the end of the summer in some form or other.
I don't think your biggest threat is us, as the RFL will be reluctant to lose a Manchester team. Your biggest threat is if Oldham ever get their act together, but as they aren't, I suspect that you will get another three years if things look a little rosier for the stadium. You might well be saved by the Crusaders, as if they go belly up, as most people are expecting, Widnes will get their place rather than yours.
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| only time will tell on this issue and its not really in the fans hands or the clubs tbh. All we can do is turn up to the matches and support the players.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I get the impression that you were derailed by the public enquiry because of the land use, and by the time that was sorted, the recession hit all the potential investors. Maybe just bad timing. People are expecting work to start on ours by the end of the summer in some form or other.
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I hope that Wakefield get their new stadium as soon as they can as their performances on the pitch deserve it.
In Salfords case the application was derailed as you put it by The Rt Hon John Prescott( The friend of the working class - mock Tudor columns - Two jags etc) who for reasons known only to himself called us in for a public enquiry which cost us nine months in time and £200/300k in money.
You are lucky in that JP will be out of office come next year and wont be able to poke his nose in to your affairs.
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| Another red herring from one of the two clubs (Salford + Wakefield) who have constantly promised but in reality will not deliver. I only hope the RFL see through the next phase of smoke screens of clubs with terrible grounds clutching at straws to stay in the top flight and thats without starting on rubbish crowds, etc....
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| Quote ="Nickh"Another red herring from one of the two clubs (Salford + Wakefield) who have constantly promised but in reality will not deliver. I only hope the RFL see through the next phase of smoke screens of clubs with terrible grounds clutching at straws to stay in the top flight and thats without starting on rubbish crowds, etc....'"
Not gone into administation though, have we
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| Quote ="Nickh"Another red herring from one of the two clubs (Salford + Wakefield) who have constantly promised but in reality will not deliver. I only hope the RFL see through the next phase of smoke screens of clubs with terrible grounds clutching at straws to stay in the top flight and thats without starting on rubbish crowds, etc....'"
Bitterness at its best... aww Bless
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Alas, long gone our the days that are upbringing brought about proper use of grammor and speling.
I blame the Club for are predicament.'"
Yes they needs to learn to talk reet propa Engleesh like wot me U and the queen she do.
Talking of talking funny Leigh can't come soon enough. It's like going to Beamish in the North East but without the general admission fee
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Bitterness at its best... aww Bless
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I just assumed he/she was one of our 'supporters'. Sounds like one.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I get the impression that you were derailed by the public enquiry because of the land use, and by the time that was sorted, the recession hit all the potential investors. Maybe just bad timing. People are expecting work to start on ours by the end of the summer in some form or other.
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No real comment to add but thought it was a post worth repeating in the hope some of our fans understand as you have some of the troubles we've encountered.
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| Might sound like sour grapes, but facts are facts, certain clubs have promised over and over again and still nothing has happened. The reality is these clubs need to be worried next time around because the RFL cannot afford another media C~~~ up with the franchise applications and the expansion area trick is wearing thin with no real progress with crowd levels.
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"Might sound like sour grapes, but facts are facts,"
certainly does sound like sour grapes so agree this is a fact
"certain clubs have promised over and over again and still nothing has happened."
Over and over again: we have only had ONE FRANCHISE APPLICATION so how can you make repeated promises in ONE appliction? "but facts are facts"
"The reality is these clubs need to be worried next time around because the RFL cannot afford another media C~~~ up with the franchise applications"
The media criticised on the fact that there will be no promotion and demotion for three years ...
Apart from that the Twickenham orientated media did not care if Widnes or Fazackerley Clogdancing Rugby League team did not get in; they are fixated by Football and Rugby Union , "but facts are facts"
"and the expansion area trick is wearing thin with no real progress with crowd levels."
Let's put this carefully: Salford is not in an expansion area. There used to be a Manchester Cup. "But facts are facts".
not a Fax fan, are you?
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| I see Wakefield are going for the same funding streams we tried ie Hotel, shops, restaurant etc, the hotel only is small according to the BBC with 15 beds. All our plans for this funding disappeared, even though there is no spare capacity for hotel beds in the Greater Manchester Area especially when United are at home and more are needed. But good luck to Wakefield, just hope Castleford don't put an objection in or a medievil site is found on site, or is that modern across the border.
Where you are now we were 10 years ago.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"But good luck to Wakefield, just hope Castleford don't put an objection in or a medievil site is found on site, or is that modern across the border.
Where you are now we were 10 years ago.
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Don't forget the newts
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