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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Apologies if it’s been mentioned, however, was a question put to the chair regarding season tickets, or the lack of them?
I’ve no idea how many were sold last season, but, if there had been a couple of thousand adults, surely that would have put some money into the coffers.'"
Because our bank account has been frozen and we cannot pay money out, they did not want to sell STs and be unable to refund the cash if the unthinkable happened.
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| Of course that's all well and good but what if you have already paid for this season like I did last year? How am I gonna get my money back?
As for a potential investor talking to the RFL, I am glad they are if true and not talking to the man that has got us into this in the first place. After last night it seems to me that Wilky is either totally incompetent or at worst corrupt. Loans secured against the club that he wanted the council to pay for.....please!!!
If he holds this club in any sort of esteem he should walk away.
The RFL did the negotiating for Bradford too didn't they? Why not get Superleague Europe to buy us out? I know it is a ridiculous notion but they were on the table for the Bulls and I'll take anything right now. Maybe we'd get a few refs calls if the league actually owned us
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| What on earth are you talking about?
What he actually said was that the existing director's loans were converted to shares and then to be transferred to the new owners at no cost - ie he was writing off his loans - or did I misunderstand it?
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"What on earth are you talking about?
What he actually said was that the existing director's loans were converted to shares and then to be transferred to the new owners at no cost - ie he was writing off his loans - or did I misunderstand it?'"
That's how I understood as well.
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| The RFL own odsal so keeping Bradford going for a suitable party to emerged suited all parties
We own nothing so nothing to sell so don't expect the same outcome
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| Quote ="red13pjb"
The RFL did the negotiating for Bradford too didn't they? Why not get Superleague Europe to buy us out? I know it is a ridiculous notion but they were on the table for the Bulls and I'll take anything right now. Maybe we'd get a few refs calls if the league actually owned us'"
I'd hope that could happen, but, the SLE bid for the Bulls was only ever a holding plan to get the club to the end of the season when SLE would either immediately sell to whoever came forward or put the club into liquidation, they were never going to carry it forward as a going concern owned by SLE. I fear the timing of your situation in the off season is not going to help, I have little doubt if Bradford had gone into admin in the close season the result for us would have been much different and far far worse, and the SLE bid would never have appeared.
Good luck, from someone who knows what you're going through, I hope it works out somehow, and if you do come up with some fundraising ideas that might make a difference be sure to promote them as widely as possible, Im sure they'll be plenty of donations from Bradford fans.
All the best.
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| Quote ="eccles star"One thing that did not come up was the amount of free tickets that was given out I had season ticket and nearly every game some fans continually got free tickets to games how this may have played a part in the down turn but not the only thing'"
Bizarre to think the club didn't realise they were some way short of the 8,000 figure until the season ended as they made no real effort to increase attendances - even lowly based soccer clubs show some initiative
opposed to giving out freebies - [url=http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/stevenage-ticket-offer-22.12.12-496599.aspxStory[/url
Even bizarrerer - how were we allowed to sign Andrew Dixon ? How any club can owe HMRC twice in one year is well beyond my comprehension - particularly when HMRC aren't very impressed with sports clubs,and especially rugby league after Crusaders descent into administration the first time to be taken out by the same owners,and the RFL having a charge on the stadium.Here are some contrasting stories while decisions are made,perhaps,on collecting some money and seeing how far we get.
[url=http://www.thepressnews.co.uk/SportDetails.asp?id=5594Story 1[/url
[url=http://www.superleaguefans.com/championships/2011/10/22/leigh-centurions-saved-from-hmrc-by-rfl.htmlContrary,Rodney[/url
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| One thing just struck me.
If as has been reported the clubs bank accounts have been frozen where has the money from the player sales gone? I know the players have been paid this month so hopefully it's been put to use right there.
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| Do you really know the players have been paid this month ?
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| Quote ="u45d"Do you really know the players have been paid this month ?'"
I was told they have been by a normally reliable source. Hope so as if not I see more valuable players jumping ship.
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"
Even bizarrerer - how were we allowed to sign Andrew Dixon ?'"
According to Andrew at the last FR meeting, the deal was done back in April.
Quote ="Michigan red"If as has been reported the clubs bank accounts have been frozen where has the money from the player sales gone?'"
Money can go in, but it can't be taken out.
Quote ="u45d"Do you really know the players have been paid this month ?'"
For what it's worth, JAW said at monday's meeting that everyone had been paid up to date, bar one - at least I think that's what he said.
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| Quote ="Iain"
For what it's worth, JAW said at monday's meeting that everyone had been paid up to date, bar one - at least I think that's what he said.'"
You heard correctley Iain.The statement could have been interpreted two ways.MR`s post points to the positive.
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| if no money can come out how did the players get paid?
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| The RFL !!
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| Quote ="u45d"You heard correctley Iain.The statement could have been interpreted two ways.MR`s post points to the positive.'"
Whats the payday date? If its the end of the month then decembers wages may not be due yet so the acid test will be coming shortly.
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| For what it's worth, JAW said at monday's meeting that everyone had been paid up to date, bar one - at least I think that's what he said.
Longy posted this on twitter.----------------------
Sean Bernard Long @TherealSeanLong
I will level with you Xmas better hurry up cos I'm sick to death of wrapping presents. And kicking a small fortune when I haven't been paid
Hope this isnt a bad sign.. We need Longy!!!
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| Quote ="Michigan red"One thing just struck me.
If as has been reported the clubs bank accounts have been frozen where has the money from the player sales gone? I know the players have been paid this month so hopefully it's been put to use right there.'"
Players HAVE NOT been paid for December ......FACT !!
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| Quote ="redballoon99"For what it's worth, JAW said at monday's meeting that everyone had been paid up to date, bar one - at least I think that's what he said.
Longy posted this on twitter.----------------------
Sean Bernard Long @TherealSeanLong
I will level with you Xmas better hurry up cos I'm sick to death of wrapping presents. And kicking a small fortune when I haven't been paid
Hope this isnt a bad sign.. We need Longy!!!'"
There was a few posts from a few salford players & staff on twitter last night mentioning this like wanting the truth and people lying. A picture of Pinocchio was put on as well. Makes you wonder what and who they were aiming it at.
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| How can the club pay anyone when its accounts have been frozen ?
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| From the other forum a Swinton fan has alleged that Patten has taken out another winding-up order.
[url=http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/411776-fresh-petition-filed-against-salford-city-reds.html?news_section=4148#I haven't read the story[/url
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"From the other forum a Swinton fan has alleged that Patten has taken out another winding-up order.
[url=http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/411776-fresh-petition-filed-against-salford-city-reds.html?news_section=4148#I haven't read the story[/url'"
The hole just keeps getting deeper, don't worry though Wilky will get The Bradshaws and Forever Reds to try and raise the money.
Nine bent note as bob.....
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| If you want Wilky out you should come up with an alternative - and quickly
Game at Leigh cancelled on 30th !
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| Why would Patten take out a second Winding Up Petition? he would simply amend the existing one if the debt had increased
Then consider that there is a requirement to check if a petition exists before you can present any new petition.
An ill formed Swinton fan enjoying our problems, who would have thought it.
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Quote ="Red Willow"Why would Patten take out a second Winding Up Petition? he would simply amend the existing one if the debt had increased
Then consider that there is a requirement to check if a petition exists before you can present any new petition.
An ill formed Swinton fan enjoying our problems, who would have thought it.'"
Here's the full story acknowledgemt to www.thebusinessdesk.com
FORMER Salford City Reds player Luke Patten has lodged a winding-up petition against the club.
Mr Patten had already attached himself to another petition, filed by the management consultant Steuer Gregsson in October, along with another former player, Vinnie Anderson.
The club has already reached an agreement with Steuer Gregsson and last month it said the dispute with the players was linked to payments owed by the end of November which, "will be made on time and in advance of the second court date" on January 7.
Mr Patten's lawyers lodged the new petition on December 14 and it is due to be heard on January 7. It is not clear if this confirms his original desire to chase the debt, or indicates he was not paid by the November deadline. Mr Anderson does not appear to have lodged his own petition.
Both the club and Mr Patten's law firm, Leeds-based FrontRow Legal, could not be reached for comment.
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Quote ="Red Willow"Why would Patten take out a second Winding Up Petition? he would simply amend the existing one if the debt had increased
Then consider that there is a requirement to check if a petition exists before you can present any new petition.
An ill formed Swinton fan enjoying our problems, who would have thought it.'"
Here's the full story acknowledgemt to www.thebusinessdesk.com
FORMER Salford City Reds player Luke Patten has lodged a winding-up petition against the club.
Mr Patten had already attached himself to another petition, filed by the management consultant Steuer Gregsson in October, along with another former player, Vinnie Anderson.
The club has already reached an agreement with Steuer Gregsson and last month it said the dispute with the players was linked to payments owed by the end of November which, "will be made on time and in advance of the second court date" on January 7.
Mr Patten's lawyers lodged the new petition on December 14 and it is due to be heard on January 7. It is not clear if this confirms his original desire to chase the debt, or indicates he was not paid by the November deadline. Mr Anderson does not appear to have lodged his own petition.
Both the club and Mr Patten's law firm, Leeds-based FrontRow Legal, could not be reached for comment.
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| That sounds like a supporting petition not a new petition. patten would be wasting the money
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