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| Quote ="sanjunien"no one has the power to shut you up ! even if only 1% of your drivel has some credibility then it's worth listening to - keep up the drivel'"
Dirkdiggler was correct , Catalans dont matter when it comes to stadia , that is not their purpose in the grand scheme of things
It is irrelivant if they play at a 5,000 capacity dump or a 50,000 super stadium , their purpose is to improve the French national team , unfortunatly it isn't as simple as that , although long term it should happen |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Dirkdiggler was correct , Catalans dont matter when it comes to stadia , that is not their purpose in the grand scheme of things
It is irrelivant if they play at a 5,000 capacity dump or a 50,000 super stadium , their purpose is to improve the French national team , unfortunatly it isn't as simple as that , although long term it should happen'"
Catalans DO matter in the whole scheme of things,especially in france of course but to the RFLs great vision of expansionism
do you prefer the amenities of a decent stadium or some of the present dross which is still somehow allowed to charge hard-earned cash to watch a minor sport ? Does it matter that Odsal is improved or not ? by all accounts it's not changed much since the 70s & 80s when I was last in the stadium !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Catalans DO matter in the whole scheme of things,especially in france of course but to the RFLs great vision of expansionism
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My understanding of the original comment was not that Catalans do not matter as a club, but that in terms of Super League Licenses and stadiums, Catalans, Crusaders and Harlequins are not under the same pressures as heartland clubs to upgrade stadiums or get kicked out, so that those three clubs do not matter in a stadium debate. |
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| Quote ="Iain"My understanding of the original comment was not that Catalans do not matter as a club, but that in terms of Super League Licenses and stadiums, Catalans, Crusaders and Harlequins are not under the same pressures as heartland clubs to upgrade stadiums or get kicked out, so that those three clubs do not matter in a stadium debate.'"
Iain you got it in one.
Quote ="sanjunien"so do some groundwork before putting the boot in '"
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"Iain you got it in one.
So I suggest you read & understand posts before getting all shirty'"
not at all shirty mon ami,just pointing out that the Cats are doing their best to improve conditions for Joe Public despite their own financial problems so maybe they should be applauded
As a Saints fan I know which stadium I prefer to watch a match if it's ever been a choice between Knowlsley & Brutus |
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Crusaders have now got the RFL lawyer as chief exec, the man responsible for the criteria for the Franchises, so how do they get round the not been in Administration with in the last three years bit of the criteria
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| It was removed from the criteria in September/October, so you can safely go into administration now and not get kicked out or penalised on future applications. It was a pure coincidence that this was shortly followed by a club going into admin. The same club that was being run by RFL employees for most of the season. Of course they didn't know that administration was coming. Also the setting up of the new company W Crusaders Ltd at Companies House on the 20th October was also coincidental. Can we have FIFA running our game please  |
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At a recent Metrolink Construction Consultation, the following map was displayed, with a Trafford Centre / Port Salford line proposed subject to funding and approval.
Credit JDR @ Skyscrapercity Forums www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost. ... count=1175
A long way off, but positive. How useful it could be for existing fans I'm not so sure but if it happens, it will increase the catchment area greatly, and having the stop named Salford Reds would make our club visible to many more Salfordians and Mancunians than at present.
From what I've read of the message board linked above, the line very much depends on Peel's commitment to funding its construction. Not such a bad idea for them though, as it would mean they'd have MediaCity, Trafford Centre, Port Salford, and our new Stadium and associated retail on the network.
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At a recent Metrolink Construction Consultation, the following map was displayed, with a Trafford Centre / Port Salford line proposed subject to funding and approval.
Credit JDR @ Skyscrapercity Forums www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost. ... count=1175
A long way off, but positive. How useful it could be for existing fans I'm not so sure but if it happens, it will increase the catchment area greatly, and having the stop named Salford Reds would make our club visible to many more Salfordians and Mancunians than at present.
From what I've read of the message board linked above, the line very much depends on Peel's commitment to funding its construction. Not such a bad idea for them though, as it would mean they'd have MediaCity, Trafford Centre, Port Salford, and our new Stadium and associated retail on the network.
On a seperate note, I guess there has been a halt in progress on-site recently during the cold weather? | |
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Dont forget Peel are looking to sell off the Trafford Centre to the Yanks.
www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
The council should have insisted on a tramlink being built as part of the terms of the original trafford centres constuction. The fact they didnt do this, has meant Peel have been able to deliver empty promises on such a matter year after year. |
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Dont forget Peel are looking to sell off the Trafford Centre to the Yanks.
www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Dont forget Peel are looking to sell off the Trafford Centre to the Yanks.
www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
The council should have insisted on a tramlink being built as part of the terms of the original trafford centres constuction. The fact they didnt do this, has meant Peel have been able to deliver empty promises on such a matter year after year.'"
John Wittaker who already has share's in Csc will soon be the majority shareholder of Capital shopping centres the group who will own the trafford centre in the near future, in theory he's building an even greater empire than he already has. Even when the TC is sold it will make no difference to peels plans for the future. |
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www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
The council should have insisted on a tramlink being built as part of the terms of the original trafford centres constuction. The fact they didnt do this, has meant Peel have been able to deliver empty promises on such a matter year after year.'"
John Wittaker who already has share's in Csc will soon be the majority shareholder of Capital shopping centres the group who will own the trafford centre in the near future, in theory he's building an even greater empire than he already has. Even when the TC is sold it will make no difference to peels plans for the future. | |
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A metrolink Tram stop is on the phase 1 masterplan for the stadium , adjacent to the main Car Park.
My understanding of the planned extension of the Metrolink was Peel were willing to fund a majority share of the development from Cornbrook to the Trafford Centre , but GMPTE / & Mcr council didn't accept due to worries about the potential impact on City Centre Manchester Trade.
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| Quote ="middleman"A metrolink Tram stop is on the phase 1 masterplan for the stadium , adjacent to the main Car Park.'"
Is it? At all the planning meetings I've been to there has been no mention of the Metro. |
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Setback for Wakefield on their stadium. It's been called in...
[urlhttp://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&SDescription=10/00225/OUT&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true[/url
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| Quote ="Red John"Setback for Wakefield on their stadium. It's been called in...
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Dont forget Peel are looking to sell off the Trafford Centre to the Yanks.
www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
The council should have insisted on a tramlink being built as part of the terms of the original trafford centres constuction. The fact they didnt do this, has meant Peel have been able to deliver empty promises on such a matter year after year.'"
As Redleague says, the sale of the Trafford Centre and the way it's worked in with CSC means that Peel are certainly not washing their hands of any involvement with the TC area, they have EventCity along side, and the Port to follow. I'd hope that EventCity alone would encourage the metrolink investment as it's unusual these days to have a major exhibition facility these days that not got good public transport access. |
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www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BC09L20101213
If that happens then i think any hope of a line being built goes up in smoke.
The council should have insisted on a tramlink being built as part of the terms of the original trafford centres constuction. The fact they didnt do this, has meant Peel have been able to deliver empty promises on such a matter year after year.'"
As Redleague says, the sale of the Trafford Centre and the way it's worked in with CSC means that Peel are certainly not washing their hands of any involvement with the TC area, they have EventCity along side, and the Port to follow. I'd hope that EventCity alone would encourage the metrolink investment as it's unusual these days to have a major exhibition facility these days that not got good public transport access. | |
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| Quote ="Red John"Setback for Wakefield on their stadium. It's been called in...
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[url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4658086&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdfcalled in[/url
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Page 41 Advertiser 16th December-Town & Country Planning Act 1990- Town and Country Planning(General Development Procedure)Order 1995-Notice under article 8
City of Salford Community Stadium Limited 10/59697/Ful Upgrade of junction from A57 Liverpool Road.
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| Never mind all this , have they started building anything ? , the 2012 season starts in 57 weeks , leaving only 5 weeks leaway in your 52 week build  |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Never mind all this , have they started building anything ? , the 2012 season starts in 57 weeks , leaving only 5 weeks leaway in your 52 week build
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"It's =#FF0000virtually up?!
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"It's virtually up?!
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| Quote ="Starbug"Never mind all this , have they started building anything ? , the 2012 season starts in 57 weeks , leaving only 5 weeks leaway in your 52 week build
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It had beter be , We've booked our 2011 xmas do there 
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| Quote ="Bigpev"sounds like me after the joey holts'"
Will be having a few of them in the morning star tonight Pev!  .
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just drove past today and it looks like its coming on reaily well considering the weather, it looked to be they are ready to pour the concreate in and create the base, not going to happen until it walms up a bit as ive been told concrete wont set unless its over 5 degrease and you need a good week so its solid or it just cracks??.
So better be safe than sorry and rush it i say, surpose they'll just dig the rest of it up for the roads n stuff till it walms up in the new year?.
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| Quote ="The optimist"just drove past today and it looks like its coming on reaily well considering the weather, it looked to be they are ready to pour the concreate in and create the base, not going to happen until it walms up a bit as ive been told concrete wont set unless its over 5 degrease and you need a good week so its solid or it just cracks??.
So better be safe than sorry and rush it i say, surpose they'll just dig the rest of it up for the roads n stuff till it walms up in the new year?.'"
Mixing the concrete with hot water is an option for cold weather pouring.
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