I'll go out on a limb and get myself involved in this foolery.

They were always going to be aramaturish as it blatently costs and arm and leg to be anything else LOL.

Out of all that people point out one spelling mistake, i wonder if that's because you know i have a very valid point or are you still going to stick up for the club yet again.

If you want me to go on i will, didn't the club say they were going to show a DVD before a game (think it was this season?) and then when people turned out to watch it there was nothing of the sort. I actually remember people on here moaning about it. There is just another example of how our club is run.

But if people are happy with it then fine......

If you drop a quid do you struggle to bend over and pick it up with that rod jammed up your ar$e - jeezuz it's called humour.

And for what's worth some of what you say I agree with but then fail to see your point on others.

That sounds far-fetched. I can't take another word seriously.

For what its worth I heard from a source at the club that the council/peel have insisted that only they as the developer can make official statements about the progress of the new stadium. Apparently the club tried contacting the relevent people but they were on holiday. However, this does not excuse the person responsible at the club for not phoning Sky back to explain the situation. I am in no doubt that the Chairman will be bouncing off the ceiling when he returns from holiday this weekend.

There has been much critisism about lack of information by many fans and I think this explains the lack of PR about the new stadium from the club. The problem I see is that the council/peel don't understand or aren't interested in the business/marketing needs for the club to keep its supporters and the media updated.

I'm not defending the member of staff at the club because this person obviously f*ck*d up by not phoning sky back. I do think though that sometimes a few of us including myself at times are quick to over criticise the club at every possible opportunity.

It's very obvious everything is progressing, I drove past the site on Tuesday and there must have been about a dozen big diggers and numerous earth moving trucks!

True indeed. I went past this morning & after being hacked off for the last 2 days by the 'Boots n'all' fiasco it was refreshing to see the amont of activity on the site. When I told my boss what was going on there he remarked that there seemed to be a sense of urgency with the amount of plant on there. I neglected to tell him that it had taken us nearly 4 years to get from the NWDA clearence to get to this point.

Are the "mcnugget bros" in charge of p.r at the club??
if not,whoever is, really does need to PICK UP THERE P.45 ASAP!!
No excuses on this cock up end of!

I did mention this a few weeks ago but have now had it confirmed that a healthy bonus is payable if the work is finished before the scheduled date, think all that can stop that now is a typical monsoon summer, let's hope that we get the driest on record.

Does anyone know if the current work is finished ahead of time if the actually building work will start earlier than planned? for me the more work done on site by the time the application for the next franchise is deliveredthe better it looks for us.

No because there will already be a Development Schedule with confirmed dates for submitting tenders, choosing the main contractor, awarding the contract and starting the work. There is always a time period between being awarded the contract and starting the work. This allows the contractor to have the manpower, equipment and any initial materials needed in place.

We don't know if the remediation contractor is ahead of schedule or not? but if they are it may be because they have another contract to move on to after this one.

Been past today on my way to Irlam and the site looked very busy. While not as angry as some posters i am surprised we missed this opportunity to state the progress made. For years Salford has been constantly criticised by Fans from all clubs including our own fans, openly deriding our efforts to get a stadium built. So many false starts had us all believing nothing would ever happen. But now it has and whatever we may think of Boots and All, it is watched by fans from other clubs. This seemed an opportunity to show RL doubters that we have finally got under way. If other chances to bang our drum come along we must take them. I cant believe no-one at the club had the authority to speak to Sky while Mr Chairman is away but if that is the case then next time lets appoint a spokesman who can keep all media outlets up to date.

Saw Sky boots n all couldn't believe what I heard Seen the Salford Star and am now confused just what is going on? Are we getting it or not? www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=634

Saw Sky boots n all couldn't believe what I heard Seen the Salford Star and am now confused just what is going on? Are we getting it or not? www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=634

Quote ="Gruffy"Saw Sky boots n all couldn't believe what I heard Seen the Salford Star and am now confused just what is going on? [uAre we getting it or not?[/u www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=634'" Are you being serious? . . . Why would the developers commit to a £4,000,000.00 contract for the remediation work not to build on it? Add to this all the administration, service and planning costs and it just has to happen. Personally I find the 'Salford Star' can be very controversial! I think you will find the reporting will be politically biased to one of the local opposition parties with their own agenda. The Salford Star never seem to report anything positive about the rugby club. Try typing Salford Reds in the search bar on their website and you will find a long list of negative only articles about the club. Where is their positive reporting about the team when we win games or the two trophies we won a couple of years ago? Simple answer they aren't interested because they gain nothing from it on a political level! Nuff said!

Quote ="Gruffy"Saw Sky boots n all couldn't believe what I heard Seen the Salford Star and am now confused just what is going on? [uAre we getting it or not?[/u www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=634'" Are you being serious? . . . Why would the developers commit to a £4,000,000.00 contract for the remediation work not to build on it? Add to this all the administration, service and planning costs and it just has to happen. Personally I find the 'Salford Star' can be very controversial! I think you will find the reporting will be politically biased to one of the local opposition parties with their own agenda. The Salford Star never seem to report anything positive about the rugby club. Try typing Salford Reds in the search bar on their website and you will find a long list of negative only articles about the club. Where is their positive reporting about the team when we win games or the two trophies we won a couple of years ago? Simple answer they aren't interested because they gain nothing from it on a political level! Nuff said!

Went down to the club this afternoon & asked about the boots n all statement.
Contrary to some folk thinking I just look at the club through rose tinted specs,


I was told, by a very reliable source at the club that the Sky reporter, Angela Powers I believe, was got back to & told at that moment a statement was not available, but would be for next week. Eddie obviously did not get the correct message relayed to him from whoever at Sky.

If that is the situation then I feel Sky Sports should do the honorable thing and make a public apology to both the club and the Salford supporters on next weeks show! I think Eddie Hemmings is a decent guy and I'm sure when he is made aware of this he will go out of his way to clear the matter up.

Now there's a name that should strike fear into every Salford fan. 'A***** *****s'. [size=85(Keen not to get myself in trouble) [/sizeA truly disgraceful journo that is so unbelievably pro Warrington it's untrue. She's never done us any favours in any of her work. Genuine contempt for us. Not at all surprised that she's had something to do with this.

Are we really that gullible to believe that is what happened ???... The club have messed up... and will blame whoever. It's easy to say that we did everything right when we are all kicking off about it.

How many times have we had the wool pulled over our eyes over the years... yet people would suddenly believe the club when they are passing the buck.

"It wasn't our fault... it was that Angela Powers... She didn't pass on the message to Eddie"

Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.

Please note my previously stated opinions on the c**p excuse of a stadium we're being lumbered with and how I believe this is partly the fault of the club.

My opinion of the said journo stands and I completely believe that she'll have done, or not done, what has been suggested by the club.

Perhaps some will believe that everything negative to do with the club is undoubtedly the clubs fault? Let's face it, we'll never really know the truth.

In this particular case, I do have sympathy with the club. The joint venture no doubt has to agree on press releases and other communications, so there'll be a clash of each partners' own departments and, therefore, egos. Messages have to go through more channels, some of which may get lost or distorted. If one of the partners doesn't want to release anything, then nothing gets released. Plus, I bet there's a few councillors sweating over any negativity because there's no shortage of opponents regarding the loan to build the new stadium.

Publicly, this is making the club look like amateurs to us and deceptive to opposition supporters. With hindsight, perhaps it would have been a better idea for the club to distance itself from the new stadium, publicly, as soon as RCD went under. Really, the JV should have its own PR outlet for enquiries such as this; I think they are being overly secretive. However, as I've just mentioned above, internal and external politics must be a huge issue.



That's not necessarily the case. Salford Star want to be supportive team matters and are aware of the good work the foundation does for example, particularly the work they did in Broughton. The issue is that the editor and, seemingly, its current pool of writers don't follow the Reds or rugby league. I wrote a couple of articles for them last year about how the team were performing. I'm sure if anybody wanted to volunteer to do match reports or team updates they would welcome them with open arms.

Salford Star will still be critical of the club in regards to the stadium because they're dubious of John Wilkinson and Salford City Council's business dealings. That stance probably won't change and the loan for the stadium no doubt compounded the issue. However, as I said, as far as the team and other club departments are concerned, I reckon they'd be receptive to new writers.

Andrew 'Andy' Peters?

Let's just wait and see if Sky make an apology first before we try and disprove the explanation that Angela Powers failed to relay the message to Eddie Hemmings. If there is no apology on the show within the next couple of weeks, then and only then, will I believe that someone at the club has screwed up. It will be very interesting to see what happens because if the explanation is a lie then it will have made the situation a whole lot worse, probably resulting in someone having to say bye,bye.

Unfortunately from experience the Salford Star will take anything on face value, they did a massive putdown of the regneration in Seedley and langworthy a couple of years back and didn't bother to check the truth, just printed what the people told them, the people then laughed at it all as a big wind up and a pack of lies. Underlying to all this is because Salford City Reds have been able to get money from the council and the SS can not.

Wait!? But my torch is nearly burned-out and this pitchfork isn't getting any lighter.

It really forks you off doesn't it?

Loyal Fan(Are you really one?) why don't you and everyone else understand that somewhere along the line someone has either made a mistake or not put out the full story.

Do you know the full story of what happened? How do you know that what Sky said was the whole truth?The media and it's reporters always get it correct do they?

You for one seem to enjoy running the club down at every opportunity for whatever reason can't you see that some people take a different view than yourself and are not as quick at criticizing people as you are.

You are correct in assuming I don't know what happened... fact is... I don't... but neither does anybody else on here. Some will take as absolute gospel what the club say... some won't. I just say it as I see it... too many others don't. I certainly don't enjoy running the club down... but this is the club that have been building this stadium for over 10 years and fed us all kinds of stories during that time... and many (including myself) have believed every word... so excuse me in thinking that we are owed a little more. Everyone on here loves the club... myself included... but too many can't see the wood for the trees sometimes.