You've kind of hit upon the circle that needs squaring. You agree that the club hasn't got much money. All bar one of the people on here accept that, but we can disregard him. You also state that people will only watch a winning team. Unfortunately, I agree on that too ('unfortunately', because I think we've seem some really entertaining games this year, but people still aren't coming through the turnstiles, and it appears they want to support success rather than a team. I'm actually not entirely sure that even a successful team will bring people in, but let's assume - and hope - it will). You also state that marketing has been poor. I agree with that too. However, you can't have both marketing and a successful team, because they both cost money and, as we agree, the club hasn't got any. The club has invested heavily (by our standards, that is) in the squad, leaving little left for marketing. There are still things it could do better on the marketing front that don't cost anything - like getting involved in local festivals just to let people know they still exist - but whines about putting signs over the Mancunian Way because they "can't cost an arm and a leg" as one bell end suggested (can't remember who, but I could take a guess) are completely unrealistic. The alternative - to invest heavily in marketing - comes at the expense of a weaker squad, which means you send out glossy leaflets inviting people to come along and watch a team that's getting leathered every week. It's not likely to work, is it?

So, what do you do? How do you square the circle? Invest in the squad and hope people realise through word of mouth, etc., or invest in marketing and hope no-one notices that the team are garbage? The club has gone for the first of these which, for me, is the only thing it could do.

There are a few people on here who keep repeating the same old "Wah! Boo hoo! Something's wrong and someone, somewhere should do something about it." but they don't seem to be able to tell us what the something is that should be done. It's as if, underlying all this, their main complaint is that John Wilkinson isn't wealthier. Maybe they should all go out and buy some welding equipment and make it happen.

Worried here that your retirement has gone to your head, with all this festival talk, I will get a list and send it to the club and suggest a presence either with first team players or U20's a stall and training session and a free draw at each for 10 tickets etc etc

Two of your young Under 20 lads played for Workington Town today in the biggest game of the season in Championship 1 against Barrow and both were top class. From what I saw I would say the future should be looking pretty rosy at Salford in the not too distant future. Andy Morris and Adam Walne both look like exciting prospects for you and they helped Town to a 48 - 34 win against the league favourites and now Town are league favourites.

Thanks for the update,both Adam & Andy certainly appear to have what it takes to reach the top.

Glad that they performed for Town as they have for our Under 20s.

Good to hear they performed well in such an important game. Workington are at Oldham next week. I'm tempted to go across and watch them at first hand.

If you're going to throw you eggs into the squad basket you've got to recruit better. We threw money at injured players and of the much lauded 2011 intake, only Patten and Gleeson have really played to, or in Gleeson's case, exceeded, the standards we hoped for.

I'd have to say 2006. Since then I've gone from watching two thirds of the games in a season to just 2 this year.

Last Friday when I backed hudds -6!

I'm not sure I'd include Patten in the list. I was told his defence was shaky, but it still came as a surprise just how shaky it is. He's like the AntiBroadbent. I'm not sure his outstanding attacking play entirely makes up for it.

But that's by the by. The 2011 intake was 2 years ago, and was under a coach who may not have been entirely right up top at the time. I don't think we can complain too much about the 2012 intake can we? Uh, of course we can. We're Salford.

Us pensioners have got to get our free entertainment somewhere.

1999-2003 were epic 2006 was good now well...its different now everyone is in different stages of their lives so it will never be as good fun on the terrace as it was back in the day.
I look back with very fond memories and I'm sure ill make some new ones in the future just in a different way.

The club has moved on ten fold since early 2000 which I expect and will continue to evolve in the future the salford I fell in love with is well dead but if we want to be a success then its the way it has to be imo