Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Secondly "Littler is far from a great" - check the record books. It does not matter if you or I disagree, if a history of Salford RLFC was written in the future, he would appear in the list of 20 greatest players. The stats prove this. He is a great. FULL STOP'"
Statistics could be used to prove anything. For example, a team that finishes the season with the greatest number of tackles could be said to be either a) a great defensive unit or b) so bad that they spent half of their time defending.
Statistics tell us that Ricky Ponting has scored more runs than Don Bradman. Yet even Ponting himself admits he'll never be greater than Bradman. I don't think many would argue with that, either.
Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Thirdly, we all can say we would put in the effort. If my employers gave me the stick Littler has been getting from elements on this forum, I wouldn't. I do my basic professional job and no more. Littler has never done this but puts his body on the line week after week.'"
Putting his body on the line week after week [iis[/i his job. That is what is expected of RL players at all levels across the world - you can't get by in the job by just going through the motions.
As for the stick he gets... Well, let's put it another way. If I made stupid mistakes week in, week out, didn't learn from them and stood there with a gormless look on my face not thinking I've done anything wrong when pulled up about them, I'd expect any employer to bin me pretty quickly.
Quote ="The optimist"I agree with you on this one, seems that if a player wasnt involved in a challege cup winning team or a league title win or represented their country they cant be great.'"
Once again, Bobby, you've shown a failure to grasp the basic argument being made. Since 1976 there's been players that we'll look back on as greats without them winning anything.
Quote ="The optimist"Littler scored the try which beat leigh in the grandfinal when as a club we were at a crossroads lose that game and we might be where they are today'"
And? That could've been any one of thirteen players on the pitch at the time who scored that try. Mark Robins scored the goal back in 1990 that kept Fergie in a job and catapulted United into 19 years and counting of success. Does anyone count Mark Robins as a United great? Do they balls.
As I said, Littler has been a great servant to the club. But a Salford great? Give over.
