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| Quote ="nnn"Difficult games ahead...5-4 to be sacked and a series of gutless performances I think it is a matter of if rather than when.'"
With 2.5 years to run on McRae's contract there is no way he will be going anywhere imo because in this economic climate the club simply can't afford a pay off. The club will be at their absolute financial limit with the new players we have brought in for this season.
I just hope the fans and the players realise this because they risk putting the club in serious financial trouble and possibly administration if they put pressure on the board to act.
Why is it always the coaches fault? It made me laugh when Harrison got sacked and then our players and fans came out and said it wasn't his fault and how sorry they felt!
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| Quote ="theredshed"I just hope the fans and the players realise this because they risk putting the club in serious financial trouble and possibly administration if they put pressure on the board to act.'"
Can we not just buy him off with a big ham?
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| Quote ="martin13"something will happen about the stadium, i believe this because peel holdings need that land developed more than we need a stadium.
but i just wish someone from the club would come out and tell us the truth.'"
The difficult thing for the club is that they are no longer directly involved with building the Stadium as they were in the Red City Developments days, Peel Holdings are and they decide when to release information. The last we saw was good news in January about the college taking up space in the building.
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| Quote ="Chico"Can we not just buy him off with a big ham?'"
I'm sure McRae's agent would find that very acceptable!
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| Missed the Howard meeting due to work.
In the old project our revenue was incresed by the retail and other items, how will that stack up against these revise plans. I don't see we can generate sufficient income to pay the full cap.
As for sacking coaches, Karl seemed unwilling to adapt his plans for year 2. We can't afford to allow a coach to be so lacking in vision again.
Has anyone seen in the last 18 months anything that will suggest Salford will play the sort of Rugby we want?
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| Quote ="Red Willow"In the old project our revenue was incresed by the retail and other items, how will that stack up against these revise plans. I don't see we can generate sufficient income to pay the full cap. '"
The club are now reliant on gate receipts. Presumably, an average of 8000+ is a must.
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| I agree with you theredshed, thought gettin rid of carl was a mistake, all clubs go through rough patches, and yes i maybe think a few players were goin to other clubs no mater what ,so the effort wasnt there, money speaks more than respect of a club, blame the players not the coach
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| Does anyone know who is paying for the college to be built? Is it Peel or the public purse? Either way I see this addition only slowing the development down.
The fact that we will no longer keep food and beverage profits and presumably have no control over pricing is another factor that I don't like the sound of.
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| Quote ="shed head"where does is it say anything about three games?'"
I'm surprised you missed it, right there between the third and the fourth line.
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| Quote ="Repo"Does anyone know who is paying for the college to be built? Is it Peel or the public purse? Either way I see this addition only slowing the development down.
The fact that we will no longer keep food and beverage profits and presumably have no control over pricing is another factor that I don't like the sound of.'"
the money for the college will come from BSF (building schools for the future) fund that Salford have been granted to renovate or rebuild their educational establishments
a smart bit of business on Salford - or peel's - part
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| "a smart bit of business on Salford - or peel's - part"
NOPE - this is PFI so Peel are the Private Finance involvement - as NordAnglia or Crapita or whoever.
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| With Peel holding all the cards I wouldn't be suprised to see them whore it out as much as possible. So don't be suprised to see us share the stadium with someone else like Sale Sharks etc...
It's amazing how we've gone from being touted as the richest team in SL to being in the exact same position we are now. We'll have no extra income from retail, gigs being held at the stadium, or from the revenue made from the college being there. At least we'll have the best stadium in the national leagues.
For an astute business man, I'm sorry but JW as completely f**ked up on this one.
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| as i've said, peel need us more than the other way.
the only way that land can be developed is for a stadium for salford.
wilkinson should be dictating to them, not the other way round.
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"
For an astute business man, I'm sorry but JW as completely f**ked up on this one.'"
Hillarious, Salford will get a £55 million pound stadium for sweet fa and you think JW has completely f**ked up!
You should be on the stage pal!
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"With Peel holding all the cards I wouldn't be suprised to see them whore it out as much as possible. So don't be suprised to see us share the stadium with someone else like Sale Sharks etc...'"
I think Howard mentioned that Salford would be the sole tenants. I may be doing him a disservice there though, so don’t quote me on it.
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| Quote ="Chico"I think Howard mentioned that Salford would be the sole tenants. I may be doing him a disservice there though, so don’t quote me on it.'"
Rumours are Salford will be the main primary tenants but peel have done a deal with Manchester Utd for the reserve team to play there! ... Definately NO Sale Sharks!
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| Quote ="theredshed"Rumours are Salford will be the main primary tenants but peel have done a deal with Manchester Utd for the reserve team to play there! ... Definately NO Sale Sharks!'"
FCUM would be even better
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"You need to look at the bigger picture pal our hopes are all made of dreams now. If we get a bigger crowd blah blah blah .................. if we don't , shiney stadium or not we're f**ked. Crowds merchandising and corporate hospitality are the only revenues we will have coming in now. I really hope that we ge the crowds needed cos without it my friend we won't be getting another franchise.'"
OK you tell me what any other SL club has coming in financially other than Gate reciepts, Merchandising, Sponsorship and TV money?
I am looking at the the bigger picture and as far as Salford are concerned it's about raising the profile and offering better facilities in a better location and attracting more fans through the turnstiles.
Let's be honest it just ain't going to happen down the Willows is it my friend?
Have you paused to think for one minute that billionaire Mr Whittaker of (Peel) will NOT want an embarrassing bottom of the league SL team or NL team associated with him or this stadium?
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| Quote ="theredshed"
Have you paused to think for one minute that billionaire Mr Whittaker of (Peel) will NOT want an embarrassing bottom of the league SL team or NL team associated with him or this stadium?'"
Thats probably why its not getting built. FWIW what would he care anyway, do you think it bothers him apart from losing the rent that a shop has had to close down in the Trafford Centre because there's a recession on?
Things change over time and who's to say that in a couple of years the Council feel the stadiums not a worthy cause anymore but the port is and they backtrack on one for use on that land. Wouldn't surprise me.
Anyway get back on topic.
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"Thats probably why its not getting built. FWIW what would he care anyway, do you think it bothers him apart from losing the rent that a shop has had to close down in the Trafford Centre because there's a recession on?
Things change over time and who's to say that in a couple of years the Council feel the stadiums not a worthy cause anymore but the port is and they backtrack on one for use on that land. Wouldn't surprise me.
Anyway get back on topic.'"
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| The stadium wont get built and Salford will be a national league club simple. Thats my view on the matter.
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| Quote ="Chico"> The redesign means that certain elements that were in the last proposal may not be included. This includes the standing area. These elements will be up for discussion between the club and Peel.'"
Bah. That's one of the worst bits about this, for me. I can see it now, an all-seater stadium with little Hitler stewards barking at you to sit down.
As for McRae... Well, we've seemingly got the same problems we had for the last few months of Harrison's stint in the job. Which, to my mind, suggests it's a player problem that needs to be sorted out. Sacking the coach ain't going to change squat.
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| Quote ="Stew2"I'm surprised you missed it, right there between the third and the fourth line.'"
it does not say anything about Shaun having 3 games to turn it round, it says;
"McRae has come under fire from fans following three successive defeats, but Wilkinson says it's down to the team to start performing to maximum capability."
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| Deary Deary me all this negativity re the stadium, the team, the games, think some of the Salford fans are writing their own doomsday book.
Im not happy the way the games are going at present, but 4 games in
Can't believe posters are having a go at John Wilkinson & his board for decisions that have been made re the captaincy etc, they won't have been taken lightly, on that I think we can be assurred.
As for the stadium, I know it is dragging on & on, but WE WILL GET IT.
Patience is needed at this time & massive support for our club & everyone connected with it, so lets cut the booing out at players for a starter & get behind them.
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