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| Doing a fantastic Job ! .
Er what have they done as yet ?
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| In fairness every idea theyve suggested the SL chairmen have decided they know better. The loop games and Magic Weekend have been so huge that SL has kept on growing with broadcasters throwing money at the game...
I do think we need to see more of what they are planning to do on the Marketing front though, franchises alone wont get the turnstyles clicking
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Doing a fantastic Job ! .
Er what have they done as yet ?'"
Ay Mandem. Wot av Leeds done besides missing out on the playoffs and shushing Wigan fanz on the way to a 50nil drubbing?
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| IMG: "we think you should scrap magic weekend"
SL clubs: "no thanks, we can make a bit more income from selling a special shirt"
IMG "you should scrap loop fixtures to make other games more exciting and stop repetitive fixtures, making it more attractive for future TV deals and sponsors and improve player welfare"
SL clubs "no thanks, we like the extra income, the fans won't mind playing hull kr 5 times in a season"
SL fans "IMG are doing nothing and their challenge cup proposals are a disgrace too, they'll ruin a competition that struggles to attract crowds throughout all rounds including it's showpiece final at Wembley"
Just about sums it up, IMG will be able to achieve very little whilst the SL chairmen continue to think short term and do what they can to protect their club rather than think long term
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Quote ="ploinerrhino"Doing a fantastic Job ! .
Er what have they done as yet ?'"
A lot that the average fan won't see behind the scenes. Lenagan spoke about them in depth on Wigan tv early this year, unfortunately that is locked behind a Wigan paywall so most from other clubs probably didn't see it. This article has a few quotes though from what was quite a long conversation regarding them.
https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... mg-4004896
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Er what have they done as yet ?'"
A lot that the average fan won't see behind the scenes. Lenagan spoke about them in depth on Wigan tv early this year, unfortunately that is locked behind a Wigan paywall so most from other clubs probably didn't see it. This article has a few quotes though from what was quite a long conversation regarding them.
https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... mg-4004896
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| London Skolars are no more. In the post IMG world, will we see more L1 teams conclude they have no future in the sport?
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| The game is crying out for SL at 14 teams and one division below at 16 teams. Professional RL in England cannot sustain a 3 tier sport.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"[uThe game is crying out for SL at 14 teams[/u and one division below at 16 teams. Professional RL in England cannot sustain a 3 tier sport.'"
It was going to be in 2021 until the vote took a complete turnaround a few weeks later when clubs decided to turncoat when they realised that Leigh was doomed to the championship after a few losses. Karma will repay one of those clubs now, and a 14 SL won't happen.
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| 14 team super league will be better for the fans and for TV audiences, clubs will vote against it as it'll reduce their share of the pie
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| Quote ="Steve0"14 team super league will be better for the fans and for TV audiences, clubs will vote against it as it'll reduce their share of the pie'"
They will now, but the chance of a 14 team SL has now sailed. If you haven't seen/read what happened in 2021,
[url=https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/derek-beaumont-reveals-he-stormed-out-of-meeting-after-leigh-were-essentially-voted-out-of-super-league-70079/ [u=#FF0000Here it is[/u[/url
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| There was supposed to be several interested parties for a tv deal yet we took a reduced sky offer . As far as i can see I.M.G have suggested nothing other than the ridiculous challenge cup scenario and an end to the loop fixtures .
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"London Skolars are no more. In the post IMG world, will we see more L1 teams conclude they have no future in the sport?'"
League1 has been limping along for some time, Skolars have been around for 20 years but how many games have they won? Have crowds ever grown above a taxi full?
The sport is skint and im increasingly convinced SL will be part time in 5 years.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"There was supposed to be several interested parties for a tv deal yet we took a reduced sky offer . As far as i can see I.M.G have suggested nothing other than the ridiculous challenge cup scenario and an end to the loop fixtures .'"
Im not convinced the other bidders were that serious, there didnt appear to be any panic from SKY in offering less money. While video ref at every game will be an imorovement they are getting more cheap content to show so its win win for them.
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| Quote ="Steve0"IMG: "we think you should scrap magic weekend"
SL clubs: "no thanks, we can make a bit more income from selling a special shirt"
IMG "you should scrap loop fixtures to make other games more exciting and stop repetitive fixtures, making it more attractive for future TV deals and sponsors and improve player welfare"
SL clubs "no thanks, we like the extra income, the fans won't mind playing hull kr 5 times in a season"
SL fans "IMG are doing nothing and their challenge cup proposals are a disgrace too, they'll ruin a competition that struggles to attract crowds throughout all rounds including it's showpiece final at Wembley"
Just about sums it up, IMG will be able to achieve very little whilst the SL chairmen continue to think short term and do what they can to protect their club rather than think long term'"
I want to get better at something
Ok you should put together a plan to regularly practice said thing
Nah don’t wanna, I’ll find another way.
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| Super League is dying. It’s stale.
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| I some what agree its stale, but two things, 1st its money, less to each club from major sponsor hence no growth except foe a sugar daddies whim. 2nd only the top clubs @ finals in turns, whilst being on holiday people have said, non supporters only 2 or 3 win anything which is wrong but outside the sport that's the perception !
Before you point at me, yes I am a wakey fan & wakey got what they deserved !
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| Quote ="Steve0"14 team super league will be better for the fans and for TV audiences, clubs will vote against it as it'll reduce their share of the pie'"
There are not enough average players for 12 clubs never mind 14
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| Quote ="Start@1873"I some what agree its stale, but two things, 1st its money, less to each club from major sponsor hence no growth except foe a sugar daddies whim. 2nd only the top clubs @ finals in turns, whilst being on holiday people have said, non supporters only 2 or 3 win anything which is wrong but outside the sport that's the perception !
Before you point at me, yes I am a wakey fan & wakey got what they deserved !'"
The sport isnt doing badly with different teams in the finals, I think its just Wakefield who havent been to 'new' Wembley. Leigh-Rovers was a fresh final this year.
Cas, Salford and Catalans have also made the Grand Final in recent years, Its getting a different Grand Final winner that is proving a challenge.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"There are not enough average players for 12 clubs never mind 14'"
I find it hard to believe that there are not enough talented sportsman in the UK to fill 14 squads. The problem is that they are not being brought into the sport of Rugby League.
Brian Carney (who played his first Super League game within a year of playing his first ever game of rugby league) stated in a recent podcast interview that the talent in this country is not being tapped into by lazy scouts. Too many are relying on 'the system' of bringing young players through academy systems, and not reaching out to talented sportsmen playing other sports, such as rugby union, at amateur level but are capable of better things.
I've definitely seen natural gifted sportsman playing amateur union who could be better than the likes of Olpherts if given the proper coaching and full time training. There is no reason we can't be converting these into professional rugby league players.
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| I've said before, this whole "there aren't enough players" thing is a self fulfilling prophecy. Every time we shrink our top flight we diminish the popular appeal, we harm players pathways. We should never have dropped from 14 and we are a poorer sport for having done so.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I've said before, this whole "there aren't enough players" thing is a self fulfilling prophecy. Every time we shrink our top flight we diminish the popular appeal, we harm players pathways. We should never have dropped from 14 and we are a poorer sport for having done so.'"
Totally agree, 14 teams should always be the target. It might not be instant but the other two teams will be full time and will bring with them more reach for the professional youth game through academies. You keep cutting and you’ll shrink down to size.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I've said before, this whole "there aren't enough players" thing is a self fulfilling prophecy. Every time we shrink our top flight we diminish the popular appeal, we harm players pathways. We should never have dropped from 14 and we are a poorer sport for having done so.'"
agreed, unfortunately its the same people who moan about the game going stale but then shoot down any idea with the same old excuses of not enough money and talent pool !!!!
the fans of rugby league will be it's death !!!
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| Quote ="The_runaround" the fans of rugby league will be it's death !!!'"
The fans don't make the decisions. It'd be naive to think that the RFL and the chairmen of the clubs even listen to the fans.
The lack of forward thinking and constant band-aid decisions is what is killing the sport. Take the voting to keep the league at 10 teams as an example - everyone knows it is ultimately the wrong decision, but everyone votes for it to make a quick buck. No matter how loudly the fans oppose it.
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| Quote ="UllFC"The sport isnt doing badly with different teams in the finals, I think its just Wakefield who havent been to 'new' Wembley. Leigh-Rovers was a fresh final this year.
Cas, Salford and Catalans have also made the Grand Final in recent years, Its getting a different Grand Final winner that is proving a challenge.'"
But in majority of other sports teams dominate
Barcelona/Real Spain
Bayern Germany
Man city last few years premiership
Djokovic dominating tennis pretty much now
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| The games dying. The Aussies have their little jizz fest in NSW and Queensland but apart from there the game is ant.
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