In the League Express, “ Referees can penalise, advance the mark ten metres, sin-bin and even dismiss”.

Why are they not doing all of the above?”

Exactly. Penalties for dissent are quite rare. So either there’s a bit of over-hyping the “disrespect” toward referees, or referees aren’t using the tools available to them.

I would have a 10 second shock clock on disputing decisions with a forfeit of 10 metres.

A 0s time would be more appropriate. Any disputing decisions should be 10m, repeated if the dispute continues and a yellow card, followed by a red if it still goes on.

I like the sound of that, a 10 second shock for disputing decisions with mebbe...a taser

stuff the clock, the crowd can do the count...

Hmm I wouldn't have said they were that rare tbh. Thaler in particular doesn't take any mouthing off from players and gave a penalty against a Saints player while he was in possession of the ball just last week.

Russell Smith wasn't shy of marching teams back 10m for dissent. Above once he took them back another 10m because they carried on mouthing off!

Wouldn't work for Chris "Budgie" Hill though you could chop his head off and he would be still chirping away.

The other week our LMS got sent off with a yellow card for not talking and not looking in the direction of the ref.

That's fair enough, no complaints from me.

Really?
IF that’s all it was then that’s OTT in my opinion.

Stephen Ganson has had his fair share of controversial moments both on and off the park .
It is bizarre that he should hold such a pivotal role in the Rugby Football League .

Very true, I still have not heard a valid reason for the Chris green offside call as of yet.

There is a valid reason and it’s the one that was given. He tracked the wrong man.
It’s inexcusable, unprofessional and shouldn’t ever happen. But that’s the reason.

Thanks buddy, thought that reason was an urban myth, I will have my own theory but will keep it to myself, and just for the record I don’t believe it was deliberate. Alls forgiven

As a saints fan I disagree. The ref needs to be respected.

That means shut up and listen, the ref did the right thing in both the Matty lees case and lms. I'm tired of the softly softly approach.

There is no need for a player to talk to the ref. The captain need only responsed to the ref.

If they want to question a call do it after the game, or raise a complaint with the head of refs.

But surely there’s more options before a yellow card isn’t there? I don’t know the incident in question but surely he could penalise for dissent and take the team back another 10 before resorting to a sin bin?

Hes a londoner..... Hes only up there for work.....