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| That Morgan Knowles has been harshly punished for his tackle on the Catalans player that saw him red carded. It was an abhorrent attempt of a tackle, malice or no malice and deserves to be punished.
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| Is anyone saying he has been harshly punished?
It wasn’t good, not only did he lift and turn he appeared to drive him into the ground too. He deserves a long ban.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Is anyone saying he has been harshly punished?
It wasn’t good, not only did he lift and turn he appeared to drive him into the ground too. He deserves a long ban.'"
Agree I watched it on tv it did not look good at all we do not need this sort of thing in the game
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| back tackle rightly straight red, it does make it easy for the ref as no one else invoked, a spear tackle and red card in most eras of the game. i said at the time if thats not a straight red then we may as well not bother at all with red cards.
soon evened it up with a very debatable yellow card on the catalans player, not sure what he could have done to avoid that, penalty at worst.
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| No problem whatsoever with the red card and a heavy ban. It may not have been intentional but it was very dangerous.
A ban should make players think about their technique a bit more.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"No problem whatsoever with the red card and a heavy ban. It may not have been intentional but it was very dangerous.
A ban should make players think about their technique a bit more.'"
Absolutely - it was a ridiculously dangerous tackle that he could have mitigated; but he chose to exacerbate it by pile-driving the victim into the ground.
Straight red, long ban, no arguments - and if he appeals, extend it for the brass neck.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Is anyone saying he has been harshly punished?
It wasn’t good, not only did he lift and turn he appeared to drive him into the ground too. He deserves a long ban.'"
I have seen Saints fans on social media saying that because there was no intent, he should only get 2-3 game ban max. Ludicrous. Intent or not, if someone like Gareth Hock did that tackle they'd want him to be lined up for the gulliotine.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I have seen Saints fans on social media saying that because there was no intent, he should only get 2-3 game ban max. Ludicrous. Intent or not, if someone like Gareth Hock did that tackle they'd want him to be lined up for the gulliotine.'"
It was bad. I called for a red myself, and I was supporting Saints. I also thought the Yellow given to the Catalans player a few minutes later was a bit soft, and shouldn't have been given.
The ban should be whatever the ban should be for a spear tackle. Given how clear it was, I'd sort of hope that the RFL has clear precedents and policies for length of ban for spear tackles. Mind you, this is the RFL we're talking about!
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| Awful tackle, was watching and saw that and shouted at the screen for a red!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Absolutely - it was a ridiculously dangerous tackle that he could have mitigated; but he chose to exacerbate it by pile-driving the victim into the ground.
Straight red, long ban, no arguments - and if he appeals, extend it for the brass neck.'"
I believe the rfl have tweaked the appeals process slightly this year. Appeals can actually backfire and see the suspensions increased so clubs might think twice.
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| Straight red, no question. Should be more than a couple of games too. Catalans yellow a little harsh I thought though
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| Quote ="Willzay"I have seen Saints fans on social media saying that because there was no intent, he should only get 2-3 game ban max. Ludicrous. Intent or not, if someone like Gareth Hock did that tackle they'd want him to be lined up for the gulliotine.'"
Yes some Saints fans have said that but some other Saints fans , including me , agree with the red card and with the classification.
Apparently the tariff is 4 to 8 matches I think it's his first sending off so I expect him to get 4 or 5 games
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| Quote ="Willzay"I have seen Saints fans on social media saying that because there was no intent, he should only get 2-3 game ban max. Ludicrous. Intent or not, if someone like Gareth Hock did that tackle they'd want him to be lined up for the gulliotine.'"
It was a St Helens player sent off therefore naturally there will be some fans with red v glasses who believe it was not as bad as it was. The same would apply to every other club who has a player sent off. The majority see it for what it was.
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| Quote ="Trainman"It was a St Helens player sent off therefore naturally there will be some fans with red v glasses who believe it was not as bad as it was. The same would apply to every other club who has a player sent off. The majority see it for what it was.'"
Spot on!
FWIW I thought it was a straight red and have no issue with a 4 match ban...taking his previous disciplinary record into account I think 4 games rather than 8 is the right decision (and not often you can say the RFL disciplinary panel get it right).
My only (potential) issue is will every player committing a similar tackle receive a 4 - 8 match ban throughout the season? Or is this another example of starting harsh on suspensions and will go softer/more lenient as the season progresses
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