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| Barely got out of 8th gear this season and are cruising along nicely in the top 2 despite having to play a B team most weeks.
Instead of relying on star names, they have a larger squad with lots of hungry players who can slot into the system seamlessly. Because of their structured gameplay they can cope with injuries better than any other team in the world. They are not the harlem gloebtrotters. It's hard, fast, basic and very very clever and slick.
They are probably the closest thing to an NRL type team we have ever seen in super league.
I'm not just saying it, I can't see past them for the double.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Barely got out of 8th gear this season and are cruising along nicely in the top 2 despite having to play a B team most weeks.
Instead of relying on star names, they have a larger squad with lots of hungry players who can slot into the system seamlessly. Because of their structured gameplay they can cope with injuries better than any other team in the world. They are not the harlem gloebtrotters. It's hard, fast, basic and very very clever and slick.
They are probably the closest thing to an NRL type team we have ever seen in super league.
I'm not just saying it, I can't see past them for the double.'"
I wouldn't go predicting doubles just get but we are giving ourselves a chance. Your comment about the NRL team is interesting. I've often thought similar and think it is one of the reasons the NRL are often looking at our players before others.
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| Fantastic effort especially backing it up after the Leeds game .
If you’re a Wigan fan the future looks rosy for many years to come .
I reckon Saddended! Will be a little suicidal tonight .
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior" Your comment about the NRL team is interesting. I've often thought similar and think it is one of the reasons the NRL are often looking at our players before others.'"
Yeah, it's just wigan's whole modus operandi. The way they use dummy runners and structure the attacking line, the control of the ruck and forward play, and the complete and utter lack of any stupid options, dumb play or hail marys without playing boring rugby.
If you watch alot of the NRL and watch wigan, you will just know it's similiar even if you can't put your finger on what.
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| Is there not a Wigan forum where this sort of over the top hyperbole belongs? I mean by all means applaud their efforts, but "I can't see beyond them for the double"? After 12 games? When 3 weeks ago Leeds taught them a lesson at Headingley? When next week they play a real team who might just hand them a beating? Have a word.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Is there not a Wigan forum where this sort of over the top hyperbole belongs? I mean by all means applaud their efforts, but "I can't see beyond them for the double"? After 12 games? When 3 weeks ago Leeds taught them a lesson at Headingley? When next week they play a real team who might just hand them a beating? Have a word.'"
just played the best team last week and returned the favour of teaching them a lesson.
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| Let's not get too carried away, Salford were utterly abysmal. Just awful.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Is there not a Wigan forum where this sort of over the top hyperbole belongs? I mean by all means applaud their efforts, but "I can't see beyond them for the double"? After 12 games? When 3 weeks ago Leeds taught them a lesson at Headingley? When next week they play a real team who might just hand them a beating? Have a word.'"
And not one Wiganer mentioning it BTW.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Is there not a Wigan forum where this sort of over the top hyperbole belongs? I mean by all means applaud their efforts, but "I can't see beyond them for the double"? After 12 games? When 3 weeks ago Leeds taught them a lesson at Headingley? When next week they play a real team who might just hand them a beating? Have a word.'"
OP was fawning over Saints several weeks ago so to be taken with a pinch of salt. If Hudds go on a run they'll be next for an individual thread entitled "This Hudds Team"
Nothing we've seen in the last week from Wigan has really altered things in terms of who might win the big prizes come year end. They were/are always bound to be in contention.
If I were a betting man i'd say Leeds and Wigan will split the main prizes (GF & CC) one apiece. Probably the expected route (Leeds GF, failing in CC). This Wigan team have for a while now excelled around May time, nothing new there. But already they've had to get 'up' for the WCC, taking away Saints unbeaten start meant a lot to them as Wane highlighted, and the Leeds game was "best win ever".
With a big CC quarter to come followed by potentially the semis and final and then the playoffs I wouldn't be surprised if they were running on empty by September just like 2011.
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| Quote ="dubairl"just played the best team last week and returned the favour of teaching them a lesson.'"
Not really, won a close game, wasn't really a lesson there beyond learning what you can get away with. There's no doubt that these kids are very promising, and doing a great job, but some of the praise being lavished upon them is way ott and a bit embarrassing.
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| Bless 'em, little angels tonight weren't they.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Not really, won a close game, wasn't really a lesson there beyond learning what you can get away with. There's no doubt that these kids are very promising, and doing a great job, but some of the praise being lavished upon them is way ott and a bit embarrassing.'"
And in my opinion it is sounding like you are a little bit jealous thats it not all about your team along with a few rhino fans who are still bitter from last week.
When you beat a team who is only conceding an average of 8points a game with a lot of first team players out it doesn't matter how close the scoreline is it still a massive feat ( and in the context of the game we did teach them a lesson) which just happened to jammed in between a similar line up beating Hull Fc and Salford.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants beat us next week considering we never perform well against you unless it means something.
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| Quote ="dubairl"And in my opinion it is sounding like you are a little bit jealous thats it not all about your team along with a few rhino fans who are still bitter from last week.
When you beat a team who is only conceding an average of 8points a game with a lot of first team players out it doesn't matter how close the scoreline is it still a massive feat ( and in the context of the game we did teach them a lesson) which just happened to jammed in between a similar line up beating Hull Fc and Salford.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants beat us next week considering we never perform well against you unless it means something.'"
I wouldn't be suprised if hudds win either. Afterall theres no trophy on the line and the game effectively means nothing.
So huddersfield will be in their element.
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| Quote ="dubairl"And in my opinion it is sounding like you are a little bit jealous thats it not all about your team along with a few rhino fans who are still bitter from last week.
When you beat a team who is only conceding an average of 8points a game with a lot of first team players out it doesn't matter how close the scoreline is it still a massive feat ( and in the context of the game we did teach them a lesson) which just happened to jammed in between a similar line up beating Hull Fc and Salford.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants beat us next week considering we never perform well against you unless it means something.'"
The Wigan depleted youngsters won at Headingley by putting 50 points on Leeds in 2012........ 2012 GF winners were......????
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The Wigan depleted youngsters won at Headingley by putting 50 points on Leeds in 2012........ 2012 GF winners were......????'"
And the point of this is?
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| Quote ="dubairl"And in my opinion it is sounding like you are a little bit jealous thats it not all about your team along with a few rhino fans who are still bitter from last week.
When you beat a team who is only conceding an average of 8points a game with a lot of first team players out it doesn't matter how close the scoreline is it still a massive feat ( and in the context of the game we did teach them a lesson) which just happened to jammed in between a similar line up beating Hull Fc and Salford.
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I didn't deny that it's impressive, though I struggle to see how Leeds were taught a lesson. There's no jealousy here and no reason to be bitter, an under strength Wigan team beat a less under strength Leeds team (still missing our hooker, interchange hooker and the best Centre in the league) in a very close game, and good on them for it. Very impressive. I'm just not quite ready to hand them the double just yet. Does that make me petty?
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| Quote ="dubairl"
And the point of this is?
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Talks of score lines and "lessons learnt" sound quite silly given recent past events.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"I didn't deny that it's impressive, though I struggle to see how Leeds were taught a lesson. There's no jealousy here and no reason to be bitter, an under strength Wigan team beat a less under strength Leeds team (still missing our hooker, interchange hooker and the best Centre in the league) in a very close game, and good on them for it. Very impressive. I'm just not quite ready to hand them the double just yet. Does that make me petty?'"
Lemons and grapes, both bitter and sour.
Awful post even by your standards
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"Lemons and grapes, both bitter and sour.
Awful post even by your standards'"
Whereas yours is very enlightening, thanks. What do you mean by 'my standards' exactly?
How is stating the facts sour grapes or bitterness? I'm genuinely confused by that. I've said that what they've done is very impressive, but do you think they're nailed on for the double, or do you think that 3 or 4 other teams might have quite a big say in that?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Talks of score lines and "lessons learnt" sound quite silly given recent past events.'"
yeah and if you follow the line of conversation you would see i was answering to the poster that it hasn't just been poor teams that the youngsters have beaten. or should i mention that a lot of those youngsters are double winners as well or will you get sensitive with that as well?
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| In a few years time that will be a very expensive team. I wonder what will give.
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| How fickle the fans are. Just look at the things written about the likes of Gelling, Dudson and especially Hughes a few weeks ago when, on the Cherry and white board, a number of fans were calling for them all to be sold off as soon as possible.
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| Quote ="dubairl"yeah and if you follow the line of conversation you would see i was answering to the poster that it hasn't just been poor teams that the youngsters have beaten. or should i mention that a lot of those youngsters are double winners as well or will you get sensitive with that as well?'"
Except you didn't really. A poster gave a fairly balanced opinion of Wigan and you came along with a childish 'still bitter and sensitive over last week' retort.
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| Quote ="Levrier"How fickle the fans are. Just look at the things written about the likes of Gelling, Dudson and especially Hughes a few weeks ago when, on the Cherry and white board, a number of fans were calling for them all to be sold off as soon as possible.'"
There are certainly a few fickle ones, we all have them. The consensus of most however was Gelling needed a run of games in his favoured position of centre which he is now getting, Hughes looked good when he first came on the scene but being tried as a centre has set him back a bit and to be fair hasn't been in good form. Dudson is an interesting one. He still young for a prop and certainly has size on his side, time will tell on him but he does need to get the petulant brain farts out if his game.
One hung we can't fault from any of them is commitment to the cause and you can't ask for much more than that.
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