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Good to see some Thirroul Butchers players getting international recognition.
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I know its all about development but jeez, there will be some big scores against that team. How did France not qualify last year? Did they underestimate Wales and Ireland/ Or were the Wales team much stronger last year?
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Look at what happened to France's team against Englands reserves. They need Trent Robinson to take over ASAP.
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Makes the RFL's advertising look a tad cringeworthy now doesn't it.
The email about 'Do these look like underdogs to you' in particular.
I'd expect them to lose by 60 to England. If Australia and New Zealand don't hold back on them, they could hit three figures easily.
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France had quite a poor side out last year. And they're coached by Bobbie G.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"How did France not qualify last year? '"
Because the introduction of Catalan Dragons to SL has, despite the noises made at the time, done sod all to improve the quality of player being produced for the French national side.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Because the introduction of Catalan Dragons to SL has, despite the noises made at the time, done sod all to improve the quality of player being produced for the French national side.
It's done wonders for putting money into the pension funds of mediocre backpackers though, so that's ok.'"
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This squad contains 11 of the team that beat France last year (away from home) to win the European Cup and qualify for this tournament. They worked hard for and deserve their place in this year’s tournament
Half of this squad play their Rugby in Wales which is a great stat
For those saying an Australian win by 100+ look at the team that contested the 2000 World Cup Semi
Australia: Lockyer, MacDougall, Girdler, Gidley, Sailor, Fittler (capt), Kimmorley, Webcke, Gower, Vella, Tallis, Fletcher, Hill. Replacements: Barrett, Kearns, Kennedy, Hindmarsh
Wales: Harris, Smith, Tassell, Critchley, Sullivan, Briers, Watson, Farrell, Cunningham, Moriarty, Morgan, Highton, Morley. Replacements: Davies, Atcheson, Devereux, Luckwell.
What would you predict that day? After training 20-8 at one point The Aussies came out on top 46-22
There are so many positives to be taken from Wales being in the 4 Nations... of course I don’t expect that to be reflected in the attitude of the fans... RL’s worst enemy from within
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Because the introduction of Catalan Dragons to SL has, despite the noises made at the time, done sod all to improve the quality of player being produced for the French national side.
It's done wonders for putting money into the pension funds of mediocre backpackers though, so that's ok.'"
How can you possibly judge it now?
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| Quote ="Banielates"How can you possibly judge it now?
The true benefit of catalans won't be seen until 15-20 down the line from when they started, when a whole generation of potential rl players has grown up with a professional super league club in the area.'"
Don’t be silly, 6 years in Super League is plenty of time to develop new international players and make a difference to the quality of the national side
All they had to do was put the administration and infrastructure of an academy structure in place, set up a production line of talent development by identifying and recruiting kids of around 14 or 15 years of age and then progress them in yearly teams through the system for four or five years until a number of them play for the senior team and then enough of them are of the appropriate quality to bolster the French national team
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Don’t be silly, 6 years in Super League is plenty of time to develop new international players and make a difference to the quality of the national side
All they had to do was put the administration and infrastructure of an academy structure in place, set up a production line of talent development by identifying and recruiting kids of around 14 or 15 years of age and then progress them in yearly teams through the system for four or five years until a number of them play for the senior team and then enough of them are of the appropriate quality to bolster the French national team
If they can’t do all that in 6 years, the RL attitude is they have failed'"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a decent standard of rugby league played in the south of France before Catalan Dragons entered SL. This isn't the traditional expansion team like Crusaders or Fulham BroncoQuins. The idea of them being in the competition was that it would expose French players to a higher standard and intensity than they come across in their domestic league, improving them as players and making the national side more competitive along the way.
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Iestyn Harris will be talking about his Wales squad and the upcoming Four Nations live on Real Radio tonight from 6pm. Call him on 0845 1052106 to ask a question or go to www.realradiowales.co.uk/. |
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| Quote ="Dunbar"For those saying an Australian win by 100+ look at the team that contested the 2000 World Cup Semi
Wales:
Harris - Fantastic player
Smith - Chris Smith, Saints first team winger?
Tassell - Solid SL centre
Critchley - Solid SL centre
Sullivan - Fantastic player, Saints first team player
Briers - Then a young, vibrant half back
Watson - Solid SL player
Farrell - Solid SL player
Cunningham - World class
Morley - Chris Morley? Solid SL player
Atcheson - Solid SL player
Devereux - Solid SL player
Moriarty, Morgan, Highton, . Replacements: Davies, Luckwell
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How many of the welsh team were born in wales?
Also how many bona fide welsh fans will there be at the games......10?
What is the point in having a seperate wales team, it's embarassing. Also, how the hell does iestyn harris fish out all these random players from the nrl or super league whos grandads brtohers dog did a turd in wales. Does he go through family treees, studying back generations.
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France won't be that competitive with 14 full tiem players to choose from. If the RFL are serous about developing France then they need to introduce a second French team, or make it compulsory for every SL club to have at least 1 French player. Increasing France's full-time player pool by 13 would certainly give them a little more depth and increase they strength.
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Quote ="Cardiff Cymru"Iestyn Harris will be talking about his Wales squad and the upcoming Four Nations live on Real Radio tonight from 6pm. Call him on 0845 1052106 to ask a question or go to www.realradiowales.co.uk/.'"
This was a great bit of PR for the 4N as most of the phone-in contributors still wanted to talk about the 'red card'. When he got the chance Iestyn made some good points of how it would have been handled in our game. The RL guys who phoned in to speak to him enthusiastically bigged up the development of the game in Wales and about attending the 4N.
With Iestyn (and Gareth Thomas?) now being at Wigan the player pathway into Super League for Welsh juniors that he talks about must be through Wigan. This can only be good for the development of the game at a national level in Wales - that is until there's a Welsh club team back playing at a higher level to bring through these homegrown players.
So many positives for the game in Wales.
Shame though Iestyn hasn't selected big David Mills for his 24-man squad. A man of his size and ability and having had a tremendous season with Leigh he would be a great asset in the 4N. Still, great to see Jordan James, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower and Andy Bracek in the squad.
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Quote ="Cardiff Cymru"Iestyn Harris will be talking about his Wales squad and the upcoming Four Nations live on Real Radio tonight from 6pm. Call him on 0845 1052106 to ask a question or go to www.realradiowales.co.uk/.'"
This was a great bit of PR for the 4N as most of the phone-in contributors still wanted to talk about the 'red card'. When he got the chance Iestyn made some good points of how it would have been handled in our game. The RL guys who phoned in to speak to him enthusiastically bigged up the development of the game in Wales and about attending the 4N.
With Iestyn (and Gareth Thomas?) now being at Wigan the player pathway into Super League for Welsh juniors that he talks about must be through Wigan. This can only be good for the development of the game at a national level in Wales - that is until there's a Welsh club team back playing at a higher level to bring through these homegrown players.
So many positives for the game in Wales.
Shame though Iestyn hasn't selected big David Mills for his 24-man squad. A man of his size and ability and having had a tremendous season with Leigh he would be a great asset in the 4N. Still, great to see Jordan James, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower and Andy Bracek in the squad.
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| Quote ="Banielates"How many of the welsh team were born in wales?
Also how many bona fide welsh fans will there be at the games......10?
What is the point in having a seperate wales team, it's embarassing. Also, how the hell does iestyn harris fish out all these random players from the nrl or super league whos grandads brtohers dog did a turd in wales. Does he go through family treees, studying back generations.'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Lets face it, that side is vastly better than the squad just announced.'"
But then again, the Australian team in 2000 was vastly better than the squad just announced |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Lets face it, that side is vastly better than the squad just announced.'"
Completely agree, vastly better than the current squad named |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Lets face it, that side is vastly better than the squad just announced.'"
The 1995 team being vastly superior to both of them. RL has gone backwards since the invention of SL. |
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| Quote How many of the welsh team were born in wales?
Also how many bona fide welsh fans will there be at the games......10?
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Elliot Kear, Gill Dudson, Ben Flower, Lloyd White- want me to go on? Do you know anything about RL?
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| Quote ="Conroy"The 1995 team being vastly superior to both of them. RL has gone backwards since the invention of SL.'"
A Welsh Rugby League side made up of players that came to our game for the money on offer is not representative of the strength of our sport
I would rather have the 2011 squad that contains genuine Welsh Rugby League players any day of the week than the 1995 squad... and that would be the same whether the Union game had gone professional or not
And as it happens, the end of the Welsh Union players coming to our game had nothing to do with the Super League, rather the professionalism of the other code where they could make their money openly. I have absolutely no idea why you would lay the blame on this on Super League |
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