What would yours be as it stands? With no Widdop, Ellis and Burgess who would ordinarily be shoe ins Id go for:

S Tomkins
Briscoe
Shenton/Yeaman
Bridge/Yeaman
Hall
McGuire/Brown
Brough
Graham
Roby
Morley
Westwood
O'Loughlin
Sinfield

Wilkin
Mossop
Wood
McShane

Honourable mentions to Cudjoe, Brown, Crabtree, McCarthy Scarsbrook, Prescott, McGilvray

Am I missing any outstanding players from clubs I've not seen much of this season? Apologies if so.

I'd go for:
1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Shenton
4. Bridge
5. Hall
6. Brown
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Tomkins
12. O'Loughlin
13. Sinfield

14. McShane
15. Peacock
16. Lynch
17. Westwood

We need to batter them. They don't like it up em.

McShane, surely some mistake. Ahead of Lunt, jesus.

No Mcgillvary

i'd even go as far as saying Robinson before Lunt at the moment.

Is it just me who doesn't like Tomkins as a fullback?

Still too many names on there that don't really deserve it. I think there are a lot of players at clubs like Huddersfield who overlooked far too often in favour of the big clubs.

Saints will probably only have Roby and Graham as definites and Shenton possibly. I think Huddersfield's backs are very underrated.

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Shenton
4. Yeaman
5. Hall
6. Brown
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Westwood
12. Harrison
13. O'Loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Peacock
16. Tomkins
17. Sinfield

Tomkins
Briscoe
Shenton
J Tomkins (obviously cherryandwhite specs but he is so dangerous and will do more at international level IMO, it won't happen)
Hall
Brown
Brough
Graham
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Whitehead/Farrell
Lockers

Whitehead/Farrell
Sinfield
Peacock
Crabtree/Mossop

S Tomkins
McGilveray
Shenton
Cudjoe
Hall
Brown
Brough
Graham
Roby
Morley
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin
Sinfield

Lunt
Crabtree
Peacock
Westwood

We still look far too average. We don't have enough players with real pace. Bridge, Yeaman, Hall, Brown, won't let anyone down but they don't have the extra cutting edge the likes of Benji, Hodges, Inglis, Slater, Kenny-Dowell etc do.

Exactly, it isn't even that long ago that we had Radlinski, Robinson, Long etc playing in the backs. Our backs are now even further from the aussies.

To be fair, Radlinski and Long were pretty shocking for GB/England. Its not that are backs are bad we just lack the gamebreakers. Mind you if you don't have halfbacks who are able to give them decent service or a pack who can lay the platform and give them space to play it doesn't who you have in the backs.

S Tomkins
Briscoe
Bridge
J Tomkins
Hall
Brown(Widdop looks favourite for that spot in a full strength line up)
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Westwood
Harrison
O'Loughlin

subs
Morley
Crabtree
Mossop
Robinson

How about...

Tomkins
McGilveray
Shenton
Tom Briscoe
Hall
Sinfield
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Westwood
O'Loughlin
Harrison

Morley
Crabtree
LMS
Mossop

Hopfully, the likes of Watkins, Lomax, Lawrence, Jones-Bishop etc can all have a strong end to the year and stake a claim for selection.

I'd Go


Tomkins
Briscoe
Shenton
Tomkins
Hall
McGuire (Widdop When available)
Lomax
Peacock
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Harrison
Sinfield

Lunt
Mossop
Graham
Foster

Mcgilvary is not is not experienced enough for International.

Mcgilvary isnt experienced enough for international games, yet you want to drop Danny Mcguire for Widdop?

Tomkins
Briscoe, Shenton, Yeaman, Hall
Brown, Brough
Graham, Roby, Peacock
Westwood, O'Loughlin
Sinfield

Morley, McShane, Mason, JJB

Obviously at the end of the season Burgess, Ellis and Widdop should be available. Players such as McGuire, Watkins and Ben Jones Bishop will be fully fit and people like Harrison and Bridge will be pushing hard for a spot. Four Nations team potentially:

Tomkins
Briscoe, Shenton, Watkins, Hall
Brough, McGuire
Graham, Roby, Peacock
Burgess, Ellis
O'Loughlin

Morley, Widdop, Westwood, JJB

Is it just me but why are people picking their teams based on players who are NOT in either the England senior team or the England Knights.

If McNamara is serious about preparing for the 4 N then he will be picking people from those squads.

He may add to those squads and a have to admit that some players have forced their way into them and will now be considered for selection on the basis of their performances this season But unless he does that he cannot really pick anyone outside of those two squads otherwise it makes a mockery of the whole process.

I also think people have short memories. Only a few months ago no one would play McGuire for England again yet now he is mentioned as the likely England no 6

McGuire was the best stand off in Super League last season before his injury imo. If he can regain that form he should be starting for England.

Were that many people really saying the comfortably best 6 in SL last season wouldnt play for England again.

After the 4N they were. Brown was terrible during the International Series.

Have I missed something with Shenton?

What I've seen of him this year, think he's been nowhere near good enough for England.

I thought Macnamara was picking players in form.

50% of the people who have posted their team have put Yeaman in the centres, but nobody has put him alongside briscoe for centre/wing partnership

?

You make a good point, swap my centres / wingers around.

Sam Tomkins
Briscoe
Shenton
Bridge
Charnley/McGillavary(?)/Foster/Hall (Although I'd consider Atkins on the wing)
Myler (Is he fit? He thrives alongside Briers, Brough could be a good fit)
Brough

Graham
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Joel Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Mossop
Watts
Farrell
Lunt

Thats a young bench, but I think all 3 forwards will be England regulars in a couple of years.