Why are they all so rubbish?

Tony Smith is British (officially)

Powell's British,

Got to agree,nowhere near as good as in A.E.C. days.

Because clubs don't give them a chance.

All the big clubs prefer Aussies. Nothing to say English coaches wouldn't do well with the international players the big clubs have.

Agars had 3 yrs and is still rubbish.

Agar was an assistant, just like Jimmy Lowes at Wire, McNamara at Bradford. All were promoted when they should have remained as a No.2

Wigan should take note, and however highly they regard Shaun Wane should be careful about making a good No.2 into a poor No.1

Wane's worked his way up through the ranks at Wigan, too many players these days are just given the assistant post straight after retiring without actually doing any work for it IMO.

Observation (and there are exceptions, like Agar and Matterson, and "wait-and-sees" like Harris and Rob Powell):

The younger, rubbish British coaches (McDermott, Lowes, Cullen, McNamara and others) had long RL playing careers and therefore have rocks for brains.

All the Australian coaches in SL had either practically non-existent playing careers (Maguire, Smith, Robinson) or were good players who had to retire young (Brown, Morgan) and think about and learn their coaching trade.

I suppose the problem starts with what is the definition of a good coach and once that is agreed and understood you gave a reference point to decide who is brilliant and who is not cutting the mustard.

The question is who creates the definition in the first place?

How many british coaches get their team playing at their optimum on a regular basis?

Is Rob Powell different then!

Its a massive risk throwing a coach straight into super league. You just never know whats going to happen.

I would like for them to coach Championship first to get more experience.

Oh look, yet another arrogant supporter of a SL club who thinks the Championship clubs exist merely as cheap providers of talent.

Why not cut the teeth (and pay for it themselves) of potential coaches in their own Academies?

Hull KR at Home

Warrington away

St Helens home

Our next 3 fixtures and if 3 defeats which is highly possible,SHOULD see the end of Agars reign.

Agar was head coach at York before he came to us as No2 and No2 sums him up perfectley.

But your PLAYERS are still not that good

You know the old saying, "You can't polish a T***"

If the players were that good, then matter who the coach, they would be "world beaters".

Results say otherwise.

Lots of Aussie coaches have failed also. Has to be a compariable arguement, as mentioned, Powell did a great job at Fev last season, Calland won the Championship with Fax, Harrison the Northern Rail for Batley.

There will be more examples in the Championship because there's not many Aussie coaches there, I can only think of Millward and Woods?

The stats in SL are slightly worrying though, especially when you look at the most successful coach in SL is Brian Noble who lifted Wigan to a certain level, then with almost the same team, Maguire made them unstoppable last season.

What makes you think it runs one way? I would have much rather someone in the championship taken Jimmy Lowes for 1 or 2 seasons before taking up a head coach job instead of ruining our season.

And its a bit naive to think that the coaches wouldnt want to go. They are not fans who are affiliated to the club, they get paid to do a job.

Makes me sick this argument.

Australia are the best at Rugby league, despite not being world champs or 4 nations holders. Therefore everyone thinks that their coaches must be the best.

Why? Are there aussie coaches in teams that finishes top and one that finishes bottom.

In England there seems to be this silly opinion that they are super human. Forget that. They are not. The quicker we do so and the quicker we just get more serious about sports science, like we do in other sports. The quicker we will also win a series against them.

Paul Anderson is going to be awesome at Hudds!

[cough Shaun Edwards [cough

Richard Marshall is a good (young) British coach.