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| By cherry and white did you mean, blue and amber?
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| Quote ="Enicomb"By cherry and white did you mean, blue and amber?'"
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| What did Senior get for kicking Joel Tomkins in the head in the CC Quarter? What did Peacock get for ripping Sam Tomkins head off in the same game?
Short memory from some of you whinoes me thinks....
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| Quote ="Nogga"What did Senior get for kicking Joel Tomkins in the head in the CC Quarter?'"
This wasn’t deliberate like the Joel Tomkins kick. Keith Senior was trying to get out of the tackle whilst Joel on the other hand could see very well what he was doing.
Seem to me that Wigan fans have selective views.
I can’t speak for the Peacock incident but there’s no way that Joel Tomkins kick was the same as Keith Seniors. One was deliberate and one was accidental.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"This wasn’t deliberate like the Joel Tomkins kick. Keith Senior was trying to get out of the tackle whilst Joel on the other hand could see very well what he was doing.
Seem to me that Wigan fans have selective views.
I can’t speak for the Peacock incident but there’s no way that Joel Tomkins kick was the same as Keith Seniors. One was deliberate and one was accidental.'"
And one was very dangerous causing Joel to go off the field to get his eye stitched. What Joel did was petty but would never have caused any injury! There's trying to get out of the tackle and then theres flinging your legs everywhere like an idiot!
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| RFL want a new name on the trophy, simple as.
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| Quote ="Beastwood"RFL want a new name on the trophy, simple as.'"
I thought our lot were bad with the conspiracys.
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| Quote ="Nogga"What did Senior get for kicking Joel Tomkins in the head in the CC Quarter? What did Peacock get for ripping Sam Tomkins head off in the same game?
Short memory from some of you whinoes me thinks....'"
Tired prop stepped by a quicker halfback. Hmm. Lazy yes. Malicious, no. Does anyone care anymore? Probably not.
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| Quote ="Nogga"What did Senior get for kicking Joel Tomkins in the head in the CC Quarter? What did Peacock get for ripping Sam Tomkins head off in the same game?
Short memory from some of you whinoes me thinks....'"
You still can't tell the difference? Blimey
What about the thuggish incident in your avatar? Proud of it are you?
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| Yep! There was nowt in it, just like the picture of little robbo getting put on his booty! As for Peacocks tackle, if he had just reacted with one arm it would have been fine by me, but the way he swang his other arm around Sam's head was a bit OTT to say the least.
Buderus won't get banned anyway so stop fretting!
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| Quote ="Beastwood"RFL want a new name on the trophy, simple as.'"
Not just the RFL....every other person bar Leeds fans!
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| Quote ="Nogga"Yep! [uThere was nowt in it[/u, just like the picture of little robbo getting put on his booty! As for Peacocks tackle, if he had just reacted with one arm it would have been fine by me, but the way he swang his other arm around Sam's head was a bit OTT to say the least.
Buderus won't get banned anyway so stop fretting!'"
it was sheer thuggery. take out a man who clearly hadn't got the ball.
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| TBF didn't the RFL once dock Wigan 4 points for 'breaking the salary cap' even though they didn't actually 'break' it?
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| A silly article. Tomkins let-off is truly awful, as you won't get many clearer incidents - he kicked the tackled man. The ref saw it, the players saw it, 10,000 people in the ground saw it and tens of thousands more viewers saw it. It should have resulted in a ban, but didn't. That's in-keeping with a long line of strange decisions from the disciplinary committee concerning Wigan players. Quins fans will recall a decision 5 or 6 years ago when a pie (Paul Johnson ?) launched a flying Cantona-style karate kick at a Quins player, only to emerge from the disiplinary with the message that he had been trying to effect the tackle legally. I'm sure we all have our favourites.
However, Leeds fans undermine their case if they deny any offences their own side committed. Buderus deserve his ban. It was a clear and deliberate spear tackle, and he should have been sent off in the game, as well as suspended afterwards. To suggest otherwise is merely to undermine the case against Tomkins by suggesting that all alleged offences are merely sour grapes on the part of the opponents' fans.
By the way, does anyone actually know who sits on the RFL disciplinary committee ?
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| The Wigan board?
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"A silly article. Tomkins let-off is truly awful, as you won't get many clearer incidents - he kicked the tackled man. The ref saw it, the players saw it, 10,000 people in the ground saw it and tens of thousands more viewers saw it. It should have resulted in a ban, but didn't. That's in-keeping with a long line of strange decisions from the disciplinary committee concerning Wigan players. Quins fans will recall a decision 5 or 6 years ago when a pie (Paul Johnson ?) launched a flying Cantona-style karate kick at a Quins player, only to emerge from the disiplinary with the message that he had been trying to effect the tackle legally. I'm sure we all have our favourites.
However, Leeds fans undermine their case if they deny any offences their own side committed. Buderus deserve his ban. It was a clear and deliberate spear tackle, and he should have been sent off in the game, as well as suspended afterwards. To suggest otherwise is merely to undermine the case against Tomkins by suggesting that all alleged offences are merely sour grapes on the part of the opponents' fans.
By the way, does anyone actually know who sits on the RFL disciplinary committee ?'"
2 ex-Wigan board members/ coaches.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"A silly article. Tomkins let-off is truly awful, as you won't get many clearer incidents - he kicked the tackled man. The ref saw it, the players saw it, 10,000 people in the ground saw it and tens of thousands more viewers saw it. It should have resulted in a ban, but didn't. That's in-keeping with a long line of strange decisions from the disciplinary committee concerning Wigan players. Quins fans will recall a decision 5 or 6 years ago when a pie (Paul Johnson ?) launched a flying Cantona-style karate kick at a Quins player, only to emerge from the disiplinary with the message that he had been trying to effect the tackle legally. I'm sure we all have our favourites.
However, Leeds fans undermine their case if they deny any offences their own side committed. Buderus deserve his ban. It was a clear and deliberate spear tackle, and he should have been sent off in the game, as well as suspended afterwards. To suggest otherwise is merely to undermine the case against Tomkins by suggesting that all alleged offences are merely sour grapes on the part of the opponents' fans.
By the way, does anyone actually know who sits on the RFL disciplinary committee ?'"
Colin Clarke and Alan McInnes were two of this week's three man disciplinary committee (which presumably had responsibility for deciding on the Tomkins incident too). I don't know who the third member was, and the RFL haven't published the current rota, but it does mean two-thirds of the panel are ex-Wigan coaches, one of whom is Phil Clarke's dad.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"A silly article. Tomkins let-off is truly awful, as you won't get many clearer incidents - he kicked the tackled man. The ref saw it, the players saw it, 10,000 people in the ground saw it and tens of thousands more viewers saw it. It should have resulted in a ban, but didn't. That's in-keeping with a long line of strange decisions from the disciplinary committee concerning Wigan players. Quins fans will recall a decision 5 or 6 years ago when a pie (Paul Johnson ?) launched a flying Cantona-style karate kick at a Quins player, only to emerge from the disiplinary with the message that he had been trying to effect the tackle legally. '"
It was Martin Aspinwall on Jon Wells, it was so high it struck him in the torso. I believe the initial response from the RFL was that there was a lack of evidence, unfortunately this just led to ridicule of the RFL when it was pointed out that the game was televised by Sky and the indcident was clearly captured on VCR's up and down the land, after that the RFL changed its mind and admitted it could now see what everyone else could, but there was no punishment (I think there may have been a letter about poor technique).
Sad thing is nobody at all is really surprised by how absurdly inconsistent the disciplinary system is, in some cases like the above it’s nothing short of bizarre. It seems that the RFL is reluctant to move to a more open and independent disciplinary system which would acknowledge all the blatant incidents that currently seem to fall down the back of the sofa when they review these things. But then a better system would almost certainly remove some of the discretionary power the RFL has over its competitions.
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