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| Quote ="The Clan"Lets get some crossed wires straightened out,
Wakefield have had numerous tax debts which have been the subject of both winding up orders and repayment plans.
This current debt is for non payment of NI contributions and PAYE, it has been known about for some time and Wakefield had agreed a payment plan with HMRC. Following the RFL and Crusaders actions the HMRC removed their payment plan option and demanded full payment. Wakefield can't pay and so face a winding up order on Feb 2nd. This is not one of the debts from 12 months ago and is not part of the debt that SRW paid off neither is it part of the image rights debt.
Wakefield are still hopefull that they can negotiate with HMRC to re enter a payment plan in order to settle this debt but HMRC are minded to knock them back as they see RL clubs as high risk.'" But your own club statement disproves this.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"But your own club statement disproves this.'"
Irrespective of the right or wrong in this instance are you saying that every public statement you read of this nature is always true?
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| Quote ="Schunter"Irrespective of the right or wrong in this instance are you saying that every public statement you read of this nature is always true?'" I would expect a statement on the WTWC own site to be correct.
So who to belive a poster on RLFANS or WTWC themselves.
Let me think
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| With a million pound SL grant adn 1.5 milion pound salary cap clubs should not be struggling to make ends meet. Not sure you can blame poor management practice on SL/RFL or Sky TV!
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| Quote ="Schunter"Irrespective of the right or wrong in this instance are you saying that every public statement you read of this nature is always true?'"
People are always asking for a source. If you can't believe the club themselves, then what actually can be classed as a source?!
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| Perhaps one way to avoid instances such as the Wakefield problems and all the other clubs that have gone into adinistration would be to adopt the UEFA plan that every club financially break even.
UEFA have brought this into effect from 2011/12 seasons. They are giving clubs three years to sort out their finances with a maximum loss of (I think) 38m euros. Any club that does not comply will not be allowed to play in European Competitions.
The RFL/SL could do something similar by announcing their plan this year with the same three years to sort matters out. From 2015 a SL club would have to break even, a club not doing so would be banned from the play offs. Being banned from the play offs might concentrate a few minds.
We don't have an effective mechanism or plan to prevent clubs going broke, we need one and this is my suggestion.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Perhaps one way to avoid instances such as the Wakefield problems and all the other clubs that have gone into adinistration would be to adopt the UEFA plan that every club financially break even.
UEFA have brought this into effect from 2011/12 seasons. They are giving clubs three years to sort out their finances with a maximum loss of (I think) 38m euros. Any club that does not comply will not be allowed to play in European Competitions.
The RFL/SL could do something similar by announcing their plan this year with the same three years to sort matters out. From 2015 a SL club would have to break even, a club not doing so would be banned from the play offs. Being banned from the play offs might concentrate a few minds.
We don't have an effective mechanism or plan to prevent clubs going broke, we need one and this is my suggestion.'"
Could be an option. Definitely something worth discussing.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Perhaps one way to avoid instances such as the Wakefield problems and all the other clubs that have gone into adinistration would be to adopt the UEFA plan that every club financially break even.
UEFA have brought this into effect from 2011/12 seasons. They are giving clubs three years to sort out their finances with a maximum loss of (I think) 38m euros. Any club that does not comply will not be allowed to play in European Competitions.
The RFL/SL could do something similar by announcing their plan this year with the same three years to sort matters out. From 2015 a SL club would have to break even, a club not doing so would be banned from the play offs. Being banned from the play offs might concentrate a few minds.
We don't have an effective mechanism or plan to prevent clubs going broke, we need one and this is my suggestion.'"
How exactly are you Quantifying ' breaking even ' ?
If you mean no external investement from a director at all , you would immediately bankrupt the majority of SL clubs , yes you suggest a 3 year window to sort it out , but seriously it would need Quins to quadruple their fan base in 3 years
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| Quote ="Starbug"How exactly are you Quantifying ' breaking even ' ?
If you mean no external investement from a director at all , you would immediately bankrupt the majority of SL clubs , yes you suggest a 3 year window to sort it out , but seriously it would need Quins to quadruple their fan base in 3 years
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Quins are in no danger of getting into the play-offs any time soon anyway!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Quins are in no danger of getting into the play-offs any time soon anyway!'"
I have predicted that we will finish in the bottom 3 this year...but recent developments (loan signings etc) might mean we could knock on the door of 8th.........but I believe we will sin the Grand Final and Challenge cup double before you see an average of 10k at the stoop
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...but I believe we will =#BF0000sin the Grand Final and Challenge cup double before you see an average of 10k at the stoop'"
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| Quote ="Schunter"Irrespective of the right or wrong in this instance are you saying that every public statement you read of this nature is always true?'"
You honestly believe that the club would risk further antagonising HMRC by posting lies on their website?
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| Quote ="John Charnock"Thieving cockneys'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"'"
Decent likeness ther Gutters
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| Quote ="Starbug"Decent likeness ther Gutters
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"It currently looks like goodbye to the current Wakefield and hello new Wakefield though mate. It still looks very likely that a side called Wakefield will be playing in SL for this season at least. Ironically they might not be playing in the city though, that one is still to be worked out.'"
it would be nice if this new wakefield club could come up with a catchy new name, might I suggest Wakefield Trinity RLFC for example. it sounds like a proud club steeped in history. alternatively you could always call yourselves something stupid like the Wakefield tomcats
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| Quote ="gutterfax"'"
Thought at first this was a good caricature of a certain Club Chairman. But he's not a Cockney.
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| Quote ="sandy"it would be nice if this new wakefield club could come up with a catchy new name, might I suggest Wakefield Trinity RLFC for example. it sounds like a proud club steeped in history. alternatively you could always call yourselves something stupid like the Wakefield tomcats
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All very nice but [iWakefield Trinity[/i has been public domain for so long that the new club may be steeped in history but distinctly starved of merchandise revenue as anyone would be free to sell goods using this ID. Seems to me that new club or old would need all the money it can get.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"All very nice but [iWakefield Trinity[/i has been public domain for so long that the new club may be steeped in history but distinctly starved of merchandise revenue as anyone would be free to sell goods using this ID. Seems to me that new club or old would need all the money it can get.'"
Interestingly they have launched a Youtube channel under the username of 'WakefieldWildcats'
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| Saw an article today that Wakey are taking legal action against the media
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Saw an article today that Wakey are taking legal action against the media
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No you saw an article about a bitter chairman who has spun a load of yarn who said hes getting legal advice. I dont believe action will be taken as I don't believe anything untrue has been written in the media.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"No you saw an article about a bitter chairman who has spun a load of yarn who said hes getting legal advice. I dont believe action will be taken as I don't believe anything untrue has been written in the media.'"
Is there a link for this? Haven't heard anything. Is it about anything in particular?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Is there a link for this? Haven't heard anything. Is it about anything in particular?'"
go to the wakey MB look at the bod statement thread and theres a link in the OP to there web site
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