I think you need to take off your black & white glasses for a minute.

Ganson had all the time in the world to review the incident, to check whether he was onside at the kick & track the player involved in the try.

He’s not some sort of rookie, he’s the main man & that decision was inexcusable.

Then we get one eyed FC fans & Gentle for that matter saying “Oh well, it makes up for last year” two wrongs don’t make a right.

Anyhow it will be up there with the all time VR bloopers, but to suggest they happen every week is absurd.

And you call me daft!!! Actually, they don't and if you can't see that, you are the daft myopic one here!

I can't think of any other incident in the video ref era which is gross an error as this one. Even Gansongate in 2007 & the errors made by both Klein & Ganson, were not comparable to this error.

So no, err they don't!

I couldn't agree more.... in all but the last bit!

Let me also add, had Thaler just given the try & would have a massively different opinion on this whole incident &, as I did in 2007, then I would have expected the result to stand & Thaler to have been suspended until thought worthy enough to end up the middle again. However, Mr Thaler didn't make the same mistake as Ganson did in 2007 now did he!!!

But not half as many as the fans think as they simply don't understand the forward pass rules.

This decision was however as you say clearly different but you have to live with it. I thought how Hull got possession on the lead up to the penultimate try was also dubious - I think James Child intervened but there wasn't a proper replay of what happened.

It was clearly accidental offside, nothing wrong with that one.

As for replaying the game, its just a ridiculous suggestion. It was an awful error by Ganson, but it was an error all the same. Bad calls effect results every week and ordering a replay would open a huge can of worms.

The need for a second referee is obvious.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but with the individual concerned I can't help but thinking its a bit a karma for last seasons magic derby

Sky should follow BBC Challenge Cup games and let you listen to the video ref during his decision making. I quite like that little touch

Got to agree, why can we not listen to what the video ref is saying, works very well on the beeb and PS.

I have seen cock-ups by VRs every bit as bad. And no - they weren't all against my team, either. It was a terrible decision but actually not the worst I've seen. Anyone who expected things to improve under Ganson really hasn't been paying attention over the last couple of decades.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But we get apologists for officials on here every time there's a poor decision claiming 'it evens out over the season' when it clearly doesn't, so you'll have to forgive Hull fans and to an extent Gentle for indulging in a little schadenfruede.

Actually I don't care whether you forgive us or not.

What difference would that make on this occasion? He would still have given the try.

So, what is the worst decision you have ever seen?

OK...

2007 - VR makes an unasked for and illegal intervention which results in the on-field ref awarding a penalty where there was none. As a direct consequence the result of the game is affected.

2013 - VR makes a massive but perfectly legal cock-up that directly affects the result of the game.

And you think these are two 'entirely different' scenarios?

Also, if you replay the entire set of 6 leading up to that try you'll see that Thaler makes a huge mistake in KR's favour. He calls the 4th tackle [itwice[/i and do Lynch takes the ball up to run it in and set up the final play. Just before he makes contact with the defensive line Thaler suddenly starts screaming '5! It's 5!' and lynch has to unload the ball in a panic, resulting in Houghton's aimless hoof up field.

Now - who knows what would have happened had he called the tackle count correctly? Most likely we wouldn't have been in the position we were caught in as a result of his inability to count to 5.

How far back in the game do we check for cock-ups?

Do you see now why the Operational Rules specifically forbid a result to be challenged on the basis of a decision by an official?

Has to be yesterdays for me. Beats the Tansey one

That question was actually for Kosh. He claims it was not the worse decision he has seen. I wondered what was.

A few years ago I saw the VR award a try when the 'scorer' had clearly dropped it and not regathered before it hit the ground. I'd put that marginally ahead of yesterday's shocker.

You are clearly stupid if you think Watt's decision was worse than yesterdays.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm sure the fact that your team benefitted from the decision has no bearing whatsoever on your assessment of the severity.

My opinion was that it looked 50/50 whether the ball was juggled and regained in the split second it hit the floor. Yesterday was as plain as day.

I see no rovers fans have as yet questioned why your full back didn't make any attempt to catch the ball whilst being completely Unopposed

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Maybe you should look a bit harder. Plenty have said this.

As described by Sam Tomkins - "the worst I've ever seen". I know who's opinion I'd rather trust.

This incident being defended as some kind of karmic levelling out process is only marginally less surprising than the incident itself; I guess it's the nature of pro sport to be prepared to accept a shonky win even after having been the poorer team for the whole game?

Of course I understand that there is no operational rule to overturn the result, but when a dozen camera angles, HD, super slo-mo and the rule-book itself clearly demonstrate that there has been an injustice, I believe there should be some recourse.

Wasn't it your wish for a victory with a dodgy ref decision

rover49 wrote:
My ideal derby would be for them to outplay us, the ref to make some 'terrible' decisions in our favour and for us to win it in the last seconds with a forward pass and a knock on over the line, but the ref NOT to go to the video ref. I love to hear them whine"

Looks whose whining now!!!

Ganson is no longer video referee for Leeds v Wigan. Ian Smith has been appointed.