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| Quote ="LeedsDave"That picture clearly shows the ball touching the side line -'"
No, there is absolutely, positively, definitely no such thing shown on that image. That, at least, is clear.
Quote ="LeedsDave"...feel free to keep posting pictures - i'll continue to disagree with you and JC.'"
I don't have any problem at all with disagreement, nothing better! But no, the images already posted are ample to make the point.
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| Quote ="Cronus"You're wasting your time. For anyone with common sense and a basic grasp of physics the ball has touched the goal line before the touchline, and that's even without using the shape of the ball to support the argument (which it absolutely does). Even if it's by half a millimetre, it's a try. Ignore the muppets, they're on a wind up. No-one can genuinely be so stupid.
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/asktheref_6th_augustThe RFL stills help a little for those still hard of understanding.[/url'"
A fitting epitaph for the thread.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No, there is absolutely, positively, definitely no such thing shown on that image. That, at least, is clear.
I don't have any problem at all with disagreement, nothing better! But no, the images already posted are ample to make the point.'"
Pff I bet you still think Jordan Tansey was offside
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| Is FA the new Smokey or just the Bull's equivalent?
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"That picture clearly shows the ball touching the side line - it actually rolls down against the flag if you watch the replay so there is no possible way that it doesn't touch the side line.
Anyway it won't make a difference come the end of the year, so feel free to keep posting pictures - i'll continue to disagree with you and JC.'"
if it rolls down against the flag and the flag isn't bent outwards then it can't touch the sideline first.
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"if it rolls down against the flag and the flag isn't bent outwards then it can't touch the sideline first.'"
The post doesn’t cover the width of the sideline. So it can, quite easily.
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"if it rolls down against the flag and the flag isn't bent outwards then it can't touch the sideline first.'"
But the flag [iis [/ibent, you can see it on the angles JC posted himself on teh RFL website. It goes out at the bottom where the ball is pushing it (and subsequently touching the sideline)
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Is FA the new Smokey or just the Bull's equivalent?'"
Can you explain how your post relates to this thread on the VT, about a VR decision, because I don't see the connection.
In fact, have you actually got ANYTHING to say? Or is the mush that passes for your brain just determined to keep deflecting the thread, by thinking up what I presume must somehow seem to you like witty personal jibes aimed at other posters?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can you explain how your post relates to this thread on the VT, about a VR decision, because I don't see the connection.
In fact, have you actually got ANYTHING to say? Or is the mush that passes for your brain just determined to keep deflecting the thread, by thinking up what I presume must somehow seem to you like witty personal jibes aimed at other posters?'"
Ooooooh touchy. Now who's name calling? Put your claws away sweetheart and chill out. I'm sorry I poked fun at your lessons in the physics of a Rugby ball. IMO it was a no try. Just because you did some fancy mspaint diagrams, doesn't mean your right.
PS I probably went a bit too far calling you Smokey did I?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The final "proof":
Here's the last image I am posting. To me, this shows as clearly as it can be shown that the conclusion has to be as Robbo has summarised it. Looking at this, I am certain that whilst the ball is very close to the touchline, it is not in touch, and the lowest point of the ball does look as if it has to be reasonably comfortably away from the touchline.
You won't be able to make a constructive response to the evidence in front of your eyes, but I'm sure you can think up some more macho posturing and name-calling which I'm quite sure does make you feel better, as well as making you look stupid, so it's win-win.'"
Another picture that proves Charnley lost it.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Ooooooh touchy. Now who's name calling? '"
Heheh nerve touched, job done, too easy.
Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I'm sorry I poked fun at your lessons in the physics of a Rugby ball. '"
I would have no problem at all with that
Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"IMO it was a no try. Just because you did some fancy mspaint diagrams, doesn't mean your right. '"
Nor did I claim it did. You could always consider posting something in support of your opinion.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Nor did I claim it did. You could always consider posting something in support of your opinion.'"
I think the video footage and even the stills are sufficient.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"
Nor did I claim it did. You could always consider posting something in support of your opinion.'"
Don't think I need to. You did it for me!
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan and King Canute impersonator"Don't think I need to. You did it for me!
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Spirited stuff, good on you. Don't let the reality that the decision has been confirmed after due consideration by the RFL referees, and on the same evidence as I had posted, for the same reasons that I gave, deflect you from your noble if pointless crusade. God loves a trier.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Spirited stuff, good on you. Don't let the reality that the decision has been confirmed after due consideration by the RFL referees, and on the same evidence as I had posted, for the same reasons that I gave, deflect you from your noble if pointless crusade. God loves a trier.'"
Are you lying here or just mistaken?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Are you lying here or just mistaken?'"
Oh, almost certainly I'm all three.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Oh, almost certainly I'm all three.'"
Ill assume lying then.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Ill ...'"
You're ill? Nothing trivial, I hope
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Spirited stuff, good on you. Don't let the reality that the decision has been confirmed after due consideration by the RFL referees, and on the same evidence as I had posted, for the same reasons that I gave, deflect you from your noble if pointless crusade. God loves a trier.'"
Oh dear it really has got to you hasn't it? Oh btw, I don't think Mr Child sat and drew mspaint drawings to come to the decision like you. It seems only you and him think it was a try.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You're ill? Nothing trivial, I hope
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Don't let the reality that the decision has been confirmed after due consideration by the RFL referees, .'"
No, the referee that awarded the try has stuck by his decision. Nothing has been 'confirmed' by the RFL referees.
But don't let that reality detract you from your pointless crusade[size=85 (the pointless crusade being Bradford's season)[/size
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Oh dear it really has got to you hasn't it? '"
Er, no.
1. I'm not a fan of either club involved.
2. It made zero difference to me whether it was given or denied.
3. And even if I did want the sort of justification that you clearly crave, then I'd have got it when the refs confirmed they consider the decision correct.
I simply added my reasoned opinion to a "was it/wasn't it" debate.
Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan" Oh btw, I don't think Mr Child sat and drew mspaint drawings to come to the decision like you. '"
Poor love, you're confused. I used diagrams to help explain my point, not to "come to a decision".
Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"It seems only you and him think it was a try.'"
It really doesn't. But attaboy, you keep right on flogging. Hang on - I think the horse moved...
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| Eddie, Stevo, Steward Cummings and the Editor of the Rugby League express thought it was no try. Who has come out saying they though it was a try?
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"Eddie, Stevo, Steward Cummings and the Editor of the Rugby League express thought it was no try. Who has come out saying they though it was a try?'"
Ferocious Aardvark and James Child. I've never seen them both in the same room.. just saying
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| Then again, I've never seen Stevo and The Hood in the same room, so I wouldn't trust his opinion either...
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