You do realise that in his post match remarks, McLennan was referring to the antics of Riddell and TLeuluai. Yes he got his words the wrong way round but reiterated something happened after McGuire had gone down injured.

Ohhh he got his words the wrong way round? ohh thats ok then

Are you suggesting the return of Showbiz Steve?

Another cryptic comment, but what I said about Peacock is so self-explanatory that I don't need to respond to your baffling question.


Which video evidence would that be? Unless you have a feed to some pictures other than those transmitted?


Sorry but they are your words. I obviously already read the whole sentence. Are you in your laboured way trying to say you meant something other than the obvious meaning of the admittedly rather tortuous sentence you typed?


I shouldn't bother with the personal stuff. Suffice to say no smartassing on my part - I was just trying to have a discussion.

Just like a few crass Wigan fans on these boards.

it seems you are baffled by quite simple things
the pictures broadcast showed Wigan players surrounding Mcguire.


well then you should clearly understand, who the other person was, what they were doing and why they were doing it Ill give you a clue, the person was you.

of course you were, in further news Im the new King of Spain

I'm thinking more along the lines of a guest referee. Hulk Hogan or Barrack Obama or Russell Crowe. Someone the players will listen to.

if they send in a fool like Smith or Thaler there will be carnage.

I asked you to pack this stuff in. You continue to be personal and "smartass". Not me.


Look, we all watched, you don't need a commentary. What they did not show is any delaying of treatment, and that's the point you're avoiding.




This is just boring. No-one is interested in your game. if you intended to say something else - why not just say it? Then, or even now?


WTF

Is your crypticometer on overload, or is this your way of admitting that you are making yourself look like a Juan Carlos? =#FFFFFFLook! A pretty damn fine smart comment right there!

im sure not even you beleive that


you said it seems without foundation, the foundation of the accusation is right there, the fact it hasnt been proved 100% by the video evidence we have seen, doesnt mean it is without foundation, there is clear evidence it is quite likely that the wigan players surrounding the injured player didnt allow the physio to provide treatment as quickly as he otherwise could have done, especially considering the inordinate amount of time between Mcguire's injury and the stretcher coming on.

ok, we will start at the beginning and go in baby steps

This draws a distinction between the preceeding sentence and the sentence to come

this is the possessive of you, it belongs to you, in this context it means the action belongs to you, it is yours

this means avoiding admitting someone said something a bit classless and a bit tastless

this means specified person (you) did it (avoided admitting someone said something a bit classless and a bit tasteless) purely because it was a leeds player

or as a sentence

i was just making a claim that clearly wasnt true, like you were.

You're right. Something did indeed happen after he went down injured. Little Daniel lay on the floor like a wounded puppy and big huge nasty Riddell shouted at him and called him terrible names.
Fck me, thought this was RL. Can't they handle a bit of name-calling?



Like GB Lion, I must have missed the article where McLennan apologised to the entire Wigan squad for accusing one of them of causing the injury as his precious Daniel lay prostrate on the ground, instead of what actually happened.

Awaits some blind stupid Leeds fans to explain he was only steadying himself on Carmont because his knee had gone.

That you continue to be personal? Well yes, just read the thread.

Yes!
... is just that - a fact. Thank you.
Yes,
it plainly does!
What evidence? There is NO evidence that a single medico was delayed in any way shape or form by any Wigan player and I suggest you pack in this silly line of false accusations as they just didn't. As for stretcher time - entirely a decision for the Wigan medical staff.


Now you have explained it, I can explain your mistake.
You said:

You meant to say:

The new "intended" meaning - that I won't admit it was tasteless etc "purely because it was a Leeds player" is just silly. My comments are considered not partisan, and would apply to any player from any club. Moreover I like and rate McGuire as a player and have nothing against him so if that is what you meant then I have no clue how you would possibly justify thinking that.

You of course could do it better , I can tell

Clarke's comments were a bit dumb. Every player 'cheats' whenever they think it benefits their team, and especially if they can get away with it. Has anyone ever seen a player own up to a knock on missed by the ref? Any side not had players offside when defending close to their line this year, and not get penalised? Has any player in the league not tried to milk a penalty at the PTB or deliberately delay the attacking player getting up?

I'm just not sure why there has been all this fuss about McGuire's actions in particular.

Jealousy.

Had it happened to anyone other than a Leeds player there would have been a mass outpouring of sympathy on here rather than some of the ill-directed bile that has spewed forth instead.

Had it happened to ickle Sammy T I would have expected the Pope at his hospital bedside beatifying him instead of Cardinal Newman.

And with a single stroke, the self perceived high moral ground held by certain Leeds Rhinos fans evaporates.

Whats it like down there?

I would imagine because no one other than Leeds supporters actually like him?

I agree with you there. In last weekends Wigan v Hull KR match I distinctly saw Briscoe prevent a tackle being scored by reefing the ball clear with two men in the tackle. A penalty was correctly awarded, but I've not seen any hue and cry from people deploring Briscoes "cheating".

If only he'd resign.

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I see Longy has retired according to Clarkey. I know Hull is seen as a backwater, but that's a bit much

Why is Hull seen as a backwater.?

exept the rule is it is alowed if the player is in tha act of scoring a try which is what the played was doing at the time of "the ball steal" ,,,,,,should have been a drop out under the stick or scrum attacking side feed dependent of where the ball ended up.

I've heard that before but never seen the relevant section of the Laws.

Any proof that is the case? I can't see why it's not a penalty just because he might be about to score. Surely a 2-man ball steal is a 2-man ball steal, regardless.

It's not a rule. They used to consider awarding a penalty try until about 3-4 years ago. Nowadays, it is just a penalty kick.