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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I agree with Seth who summed up my sentiments on the game pretty well.I will watch little bits of the up coming WC, mainly the semis and final as the southern hemisphere sides can be almost watchable but then That will be my fill of RU until 2019.'"
I watch it sometimes when I'm feeling a bit down, it has me in stitches seeing how rank bad awful they are, it's comedy gold, especially the fat lads wearing the baggy version of the kit to hide their bellies.
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| Quote ="Seth"As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.
England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.'"
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| Quote ="Seth"As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.
England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.'"
It's such a poor 'product' that it is watched for over 4 decades or coached by people who claim they don't like it. There is now nearly 80 pages of RL fans talking about all-things RU which is far more than any other RL-based topic on VT (which proves RL fans are more obsessed about RU than their own 'product') on a thread started by a RL fan who hated Union so much he paid good money for months to subscribe to BT to watch it.
There could be another 80 pages of obsessive posts about RU (and probably will be by the end of the RWC), no-one outside of RL fans gives a monkeys what you or anyone else thinks or posts about RU as a 'product' (apart from laughing at it as I do) so crack on
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| I was offering a reasoned response to the school of thought that league fans only 'dislike' union for the reasons I stated. You peddle your agenda that it's obsessive all you like but as a sport which crosses over with ours as much as it does its always going to be discussed, and of course the initial thread was started as a discussion about a former league star.
I never said those outside RL care about my opinion as to the merits of the 'product', I'm sure they dont. Keep scoffing at anyone who dare to not enjoy union and backing up your point with 'emojis' i find that always makes your posts sound mature and reasoned.
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| Quote ="galliant"There is now nearly 80 pages of RL fans talking about all-things RU which is far more than any other RL-based topic on VT (which proves RL fans are more obsessed about RU than their own 'product'):'"
Or it proves this thread is about the WHOLE sport of RU and is covering all aspects of it.
whereas the threads on RL are about a CERTAIN PART of that sport whether it be a certain match, player, use of VR, signings for 2016, kits for next year etc.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Or it proves this thread is about the WHOLE sport of RU and is covering all aspects of it.
whereas the threads on RL are about a CERTAIN PART of that sport whether it be a certain match, player, use of VR, signings for 2016, kits for next year etc.'"
Oh right, that explains why there's nearly 80 obsessed pages to do with Union
Best stick to your bizarre hobby of printing other peoples posts onto other parts of the forum.
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| Quote ="galliant"Oh right, that explains why there's nearly 80 obsessed pages to do with Union
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It does perfectly explain it
Quote ="gallant"Best stick to your bizarre hobby of printing other peoples posts onto other parts of the forum.
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What the hell are you on about? Have you taken a blow to the head? Taken drugs/alcohol today?
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| Quote ="galliant"Oh right, that explains why there's nearly 80 obsessed pages to do with Union
Best stick to your bizarre hobby of printing other peoples posts onto other parts of the forum.
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You're doing a good job of making yourself look pretty silly now so probably best to leave you to it.
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| Mugw...,
Wales usually have produced good halfbacks and outside-backs, Gatland has used Jamie Roberts effectively in the last few yrs, and Wales have defended better, look at the Welsh backs that the Lions have selected over yrs.
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| Big Sam made an impressive impact from the bench against Fiji and which even those critical of his selection have had to accept.
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| He did ok, some strong runs and nice offloads. I'd personally like to see him getting the ball a bit further out wide than he was doing on Friday though.
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| Quote ="Nothus"He did ok, some strong runs and nice offloads. I'd personally like to see him getting the ball a bit further out wide than he was doing on Friday though.'"
I think he will get more game time as the competition moves on.
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| WOW! Never has England's [uthrill-a-decade[/u style been so firmly emphasized.
"Big Truck" Burgess picked in the centres because speed, agility and handling are just so totally overrated.
Give me big hits every time.
Then they drop the one halfback with any class for head-down Farrell.
Bravo! Arf! Arf!
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| 53 points 2 tries. Says it all.
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| Burgess just made a Lions centre and veteran of 70+ Test matches look completely anonymous while at the same time looking a threat with ball in hand.
Union players, I've šhït em!
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| Who could ever support England? Consistently the most dreary, one-dimensional side in Rugger Buggery (with the possible exception of Argentina).
Everything I despise about negative play can be encapsulated in the history of the English Union team.
Pity George Ford wasn't born with a wooden leg and lead weights dragging his head down or he could be Owen Farrell!
And how about those SPARE TYRES on show tonight!
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| Quote ="Mugwump"
And how about those SPARE TYRES on show tonight!
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Well they do say Union is a game for people of all shapes, mainly really fat blokes, bean poles and circus freaks!
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"53 points 2 tries. Says it all.'"
Never watched it but yes that does say it all. Don't understand how people find it entertaining.
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| Where are those cheeky little blighters who took me to task for calling England boring?
[iCome out, come out wherever you are![/i
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| At least Burgess has the excuse of being a novice, Brad Barritt's continued selection is more baffling. Panface being the backs coach (mega lolz) must be the only reason.
The game itself was typical of the relentless, shameless RU hype machine. Great build up, an intense game, but devoid of any quality. Please, Sam, see sense and come home, you're wasted with that band of trust fund, mumford and sons rejects.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Burgess just made a Lions centre and veteran of 70+ Test matches look completely anonymous while at the same time looking a threat with ball in hand.
Union players, I've šhït em!'"
I think you are being a touch kind here. Burgess did practically nothing. Yes, he made a few tackles and kept mistakes to a minimum. But there was nothing in his performance which alone could identify him as being "Sam Burgess".
I don't blame the lad because he's not a centre. It's total and utter insanity picking him there unless you have some exceptional talent supporting him. England don't have it. But more importantly they would never select it anyway.
The white jersey is little more than a talent singularity. Like a kryptonite sandwich is to Superman.
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| I've seen some porkers crowbarred into a Union shirt in my time. But tonight was pure Hogzilla.
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| As for the [uSHOCKER[/u which was Match Fixers vs Samoa - was this the first game in which more passes were dropped than caught?
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