|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6858 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2019 | Nov 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="J20"Difference being Saints made these plans clear to the RFL quite early, Wakey it's only been mouted and said will discuss it now. Saints have maintained a top 2 side throughout and continue to bring through regular youth into the first team whilst getting strong crowds. Saints ground is currently one negative in a pretty impressive bid, Newmarket was sounding like the entire strong point of Wakefields bid. They'd find it pretty hard to act like they meant to move to Barnsley all along!'"
and more importantly than all of the above they would never kick st helens out anyway.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 3270 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2021 | Aug 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="LewisJ23"There must be less than 30 residents that live anywhere near where the ground is supposed to be situated, their input is about as important as mine.'"
There is an estate of maybe 150 houses situated opposite J32 (Lee Way, Merefield Way etc). Still, I don't think there will be too many objectors.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="LewisJ23"Wakefield's attendences aren't very high as it is, the club is becoming less and less cared about with each year that goes by. How do I know this ? I work there every day and live very close. A groundshare wouldn't work because quite simply [i[uyou wouldn't get the fans over to Oakwell every 2 weeks[/u[/i, crowds would drop dramatically.'"
I would expect crowds to increase given the whingeing that goes on from fans of other clubs about not going to watch their team against Wakefield due to Belle Vue being crap.
Surely they would turn up in their droves to a ground with four covered stands.
Indeed Hull KR would probably bring 500,000 instead of their usual 250,000
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="J20"Difference being Saints made these plans clear to the RFL quite early, [i[uWakey it's only been mouted and said will discuss it now[/u[/i. Saints have maintained a top 2 side throughout and continue to bring through regular youth into the first team whilst getting strong crowds. Saints ground is currently one negative in a pretty impressive bid, Newmarket was sounding like the entire strong point of Wakefields bid. They'd find it pretty hard to act like they meant to move to Barnsley all along!'"
Wakefield's Plan B has been in existence for over a year, and whilst it has never been made puiblic, who's to know that it hasn't already been shared with the RFL?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 8487 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="number 6"interesting to see castlefords average attendance last season, im sure there was a few games where only 5-6 thousand attended, 10 miles his hardly a day trip now is it? think you are just hoping a praying for that!'"
A lot of our fixtures were altered.
Our first two home games - usually the biggest attended games of the season purely because it's the new season - were both on Sky on Saturday evenings. Additionally, these were games against Warrington and Hull KR, usually two of the biggest followings brought to games.
Catalans was moved to a TUESDAY night, whereby the majority of season ticket holders, including myself, could not make it due to various reasons.
Bradford at home was moved to an earlier kick-off (11:30am on a Sunday!) due to the World Cup game, which meant that a lot of Cas and Bradford fans stopped at home.
Leeds at home was also on Sky, again, another game where the crowd would have been higher due to it being a derby.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 8487 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Hightown Tiger"There is an estate of maybe 150 houses situated opposite J32 (Lee Way, Merefield Way etc). Still, I don't think there will be too many objectors.'"
And considering they were there and built when the OPP application went in three years ago, you'd have thought they would have done it then. Pardon my ignorance on the matter - don't really know much about planning - but I don't think objections count much for full PP anyway do they?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 28736 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Wakefield's Plan B has been in existence for over a year, and whilst it has never been made puiblic, who's to know that it hasn't already been shared with the RFL?'"
I'm not sure a London based solo artist concert is the answer here!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7050 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Oct 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| How much would it cost to rent a stadium out, i.e. Oakwell, and what would happen if Barnsley refused?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1869 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Yeah, why don't they just move to like, Sheffield for like 6 Years?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 10000 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Do we know where Wakefield will play should they not got a SL license then? Will they continue with the Oakwell plan (if Sheffield Eagles can afford to play at Bramall Lane, then it can't be that much out of the question)? Would a ground share at Featherstone/Dewsbury/Batley/Castleford be the other options, considering they're only 5-8 miles away? Which one would be the preference?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 10000 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Yeah, why don't they just move to like, Sheffield for like 6 Years?'"
Why?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1347 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2022 | May 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Fully"And considering they were there and built when the OPP application went in three years ago, you'd have thought they would have done it then. Pardon my ignorance on the matter - don't really know much about planning - but I don't think objections count much for full PP anyway do they?'"
The whole scheme is approved. People can object to the details ie Windows overlooking gardens, design details , type of brick finish etc - you know, the sort of thing anybody would object to at the top of a former pit stack in GH
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Yeah, why don't they just move to like, Sheffield for like 6 Years?'"
huddersfield tried it and failed
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="LewisJ23"Our biggest games last year were on sky - Hull KR, Hull FC, Leeds, Warrington which took a big hit on our attendence but I can assure you the town of Castleford bleeds RL and if you don't believe that then, quite simply, you're an idiot.'"
cas v hull fc wan't on sky, also i believe our away support out numbered your home support on a sunday afternoon, this was mentioned on your own forum by your own fans, if your town bleeds rl then why doesn't the population support them, if you're going to accuse someone of being an idiot, try not to be a bigger one first!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 22320 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| build a new staduim between Wakefield and castleford, call them the Calder wild tigers.
Job done.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 332 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2014 | Aug 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The club is a joke from top to bottom and off the field, we certainly dont deserve to be in sl off the field. People can go on about how good widnes bid is but until the day i die i will always believe its what you do on the field that should count. Widnes have a e team and couldnt even dominate the lower leagues, should they come up then goodluck to them but its by default imo.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 5064 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="J20"Difference being Saints made these plans clear to the RFL quite early, Wakey it's only been mouted and said will discuss it now. Saints have maintained a top 2 side throughout and continue to bring through regular youth into the first team whilst getting strong crowds. Saints ground is currently one negative in a pretty impressive bid, Newmarket was sounding like the entire strong point of Wakefields bid. They'd find it pretty hard to act like they meant to move to Barnsley all along!'"
Especially when their current franchise was awarded on the basis of moving to Thornes Park, which fell through a week or so after the franchise award.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 5064 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Sheldon"build a new staduim between Wakefield and castleford, call them the Calder wild tigers.
Job done.'"
Or build a stadium in Wakefield and share that...
Cas are building a stadium in Wakefield and offered to share. Wakefield council offered to do a feasibility study on both stadium projects in Wakefield in a bid to put all resources behind the best option to get it built quicker and Trinity refused. There is a stadium scheduled to be built in Wakefield, but Wakefield nor their fans want to play in it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6096 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="StanTHEWildcat"The club is a joke from top to bottom and off the field, we certainly dont deserve to be in sl off the field. People can go on about how good widnes bid is but until the day i die i will always believe its what you do on the field that should count. Widnes have a poop team and couldnt even dominate the lower leagues, should they come up then goodluck to them but its by default imo.'"
Not by default, by the rules YOUR BOD voted for. The rules your BOD thought would be best to keep you in SL, the rules your BOD made promises on, the rules your BOD again failed miserably to deliver, put simply that is.
Your board voted for this system along with the rest of SL, if your the ones that get the boot, you only have your BOD to blame!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6096 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Gazemous"Especially when their current franchise was awarded on the basis of moving to Thornes Park, which fell through a week or so after the franchise award.'"
Exactly. Tbh Wakefield as an entirty have broken more than enough stadium promises to last them a lifetime. Surely it's a HUGE worry the lack of investment in squad when they weren't even paying for Newmarket? Sorry but 'we can't survive without SL' will not be a reason to keep you in (even if it is for expansion sides).
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BD"How much would it cost to rent a stadium out, i.e. Oakwell, and what would happen if Barnsley refused?'"
Agreements are already in place for a temporary 'home'
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6096 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Agreements are already in place for a temporary 'home''"
Why hasn't club mentioned before then? Announcement yesterday didn't say anything either which was a bit odd. Plus for SL bid how long is temporary? If NM got knocked back where to then? Seem's all Wakey's eggs were well and truly in one basket!
Not havine a pop but it's just very worrying to see a club on such thin ice! Only mention of Oakwell or any plan B has been from fans thus far etc. IIRC SL bids go in, in April as well!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 557 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2011 | Mar 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BD"How much would it cost to rent a stadium out, i.e. Oakwell, and what would happen if Barnsley refused?'"
can be around £10-20K per game. A one year or two year (!) deal would make it cheaper. However the 'cost to wakey' is potentially higher.
The need office space / retail space. They will lose stadium naming and advertising money. They will make very little on corporate hospitality etc. (This creates pressure on putting up entrance costs)There will be additional costs re training / playing U20 + U 18 games + costs for events through the season. Likely to be pressure on marketing costs. PLUS gates are likely to fall so revenues down. Given the winding up orders while at BV this additional financial pressure hammers any licence bid.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11589 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Yeah, why don't they just move to like, Sheffield for like 6 Years?'"
Course we could and pilac their eyes out just like your lot did
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 12415 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2014 | Jun 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Fully"A lot of our fixtures were altered.
Our first two home games - usually the biggest attended games of the season purely because it's the new season - were both on Sky on Saturday evenings. Additionally, these were games against Warrington and Hull KR, usually two of the biggest followings brought to games.
Catalans was moved to a TUESDAY night, whereby the majority of season ticket holders, including myself, could not make it due to various reasons.
Bradford at home was moved to an earlier kick-off (11:30am on a Sunday!) due to the World Cup game, which meant that a lot of Cas and Bradford fans stopped at home.
Leeds at home was also on Sky, again, another game where the crowd would have been higher due to it being a derby.'"
I think you can add to that an absolutely crap start to the season where the team were inconsistent and unentertaining - this turned a fair few away, only to see some return later in the year. Add to that the recession and a general feeling of disillusionment amongst the fans at the perceived lack of progress with the stadium development - the Jungle was a pretty depressing place to be at times in 2010.
I think few would argue that the town lives and breathes RL, however what's currently required are new facilities and a new Super League License; hopefully both of which will come to fruition and help the club realise it's full potential.
|
|
|
|
|