If Senior was up for it he'd have been one of the first names on my sheet.

If he's still up for it then McGuire will get a training injury this week to be replaced by Senior

with any luck! (not a real injury before anyone starts).

True but it would not be true to say thay didnt ask any questions on the right hand side, ellis, shenton and hall made plenty of tackles, its just that the aussies couldnt break through so they would try the left again.

T Briscoe at centre and Smith on the wing would have made more sense. Briscoe would certainly have put in a better defencive performance than Smith. Hope the lad realises he was not the problem out there.

Interesting ain't it? Danny McGuire ain't up to it and yet 13 other Super League clubs still can't produce a player who can take his place in the England team.

Pryce isn't up to it, McGuire isn't up to it - if these players are so terrible then why can't some of Super League's more tin-pot clubs come up with players who are better?

Tomkins and Eastmond will do a much better job.

Tomkins in the first half was anonymous but of course, as he's flavour of the month at the minute around here, that's OK. There was an offload from Sinfield that would have had him over the line with barely a finger laid on him and yet, for whatever reason, he couldn't / wouldn't go for it.

As for Eastmond, he couldn't dislodge Sean Long as the St Helens No7.

The fact is that our player depth is not up to the job and for all the while that the Wakefield and Castleford fans come on here and slag off the Leeds contingent, it's there clubs who are equally culpable for today's performance for not producing players of a better standard.

Shenton

thats what you get when you don't pick from top teams.

Eastmond is far more dangerous than McGuire and his defence is miles better, he will always do better at international level.

Eastmond will threaten the aussies far more in attack which is what we need.

Tomkins and Eastmond for me, by quite some distance.

McGuire and Smith were responsible for every aus try. How do leeds cover for defence like that week in week out?

Senior should be in the team.

I agree with you on that one. Putting a full-back up against Greg Inglis was a disaster waiting to happen.

The point still stands though. A full back, playing at centre for Leeds, has still gone on to have an outstanding season in Super League that has led to international honours. That is where the problem lies.

Horse .

I couldnt agree more

And what's wrong with Shenton? he would have walked into the Saints team (and Leeds team for that matter) last season because he's certainly better then Smith & Gilmour/Wheeler/whoever else Saints used as a makeshift centre.

the blame isnt on one club`s players it is on sl as a whole, to many overseas players stopping the young players getting a place. get rid of them all, we have gone backwards in the last 10 years we need to go back to the british way of playing RL, bring back the biff and let the halfbacks run the game.

Agreed. I would keep Smith on the wing and Maguire as SO to have some experience in the backs. Next year neither of them will be in the side, but next match is a must-win, you can't afford to simply build for the future.

I have never rated Mcguire hes fine in a dominant side running at will through poor defences, but today he was shown up for what he is, his defence is awful and his genral play against a top side offers nothing a great club player playing around a great team playing in a league where they very rarely get pushed to the max, so when the going gets tough they cannot cope, Smith again was another none performer, all the tries came from their side and obviously the Auz coaching staff knew this weekness and exploited it, how our staff cannot see it is beyond me....

Yeah, probably because every time they went down the right they were stopped, whereas every time they went down the left there was an open channel to the line...

Now Tony, if you were facing such a defence, where would you aim your attacks?

Because not enough people play the game in this country. It's simple.

typical club bias, Tomkins was awful in the first, and did little in the 2nd half but throw a few steps,

i remember at least 3 occasions that where we lost ground and momentum because Tomkins tried a hollywood ball that came nowhere close to coming off

For however bad Mcguire was Tomkins proved 100% today he is at last 18 months from international standard, his rugby brain was nowhere near where it needed to be, his pass selection was woeful

Eastmond looked great against a tiring defence, but play him in the middle, from the start and you lose all the impact he had around the fringes

TBH the level of idiocy club bias brings out is quite embarrassing, Mcguire hasnt been a 'support' player for 3 years, he doesnt have the speed, yet he is the dominant half back-for the dominant side in Super League, he has matured to one of the best players at Leeds,

Today wasnt his best game, but then again, none of the backs covered themselves in glory,

They dont, both Mcguire and Smith have and will play better

McGuire and Smith were awful on the right side defence but where was our right sided backrower? He was never there whoever he was!
As soon as the long pass came out from Lockyer we were outnumbered due to the backrower's absence. I think it's Peacock who went missing 'cos he was battling up the middle as a prop and not where he was selected to play.
We looked far better when Crabtree and Westwood came on.
As for the second half, the Aussies already had the game won and were not at the same intensity as the first 30 mins.
Tomkins and Eastmond looked very good with ball in hand but Eastmond did fall off quite a few tackles. I do think centre is the wrong position for him.
I'd prefer Tomkins and Eastmond for 6 & 7 although Tony Smith could very well drop them both!

McGuire was S H I T

And Leeds have helped by signing an aussie centre to replace Smith


Just accept he was the worst player on the field, & that Shenton didnt screw up like all you leeds fans thought....

Which second row was deffending on the England right? I'm just asking because I never saw one out there. Maybe giving Peacock the 11 shirt and expecting him to play a defensive role he hasn't played at club level for several years was the mistake.

Why do you find it amusing? Are you Australian, or are you a one eyed, one club wan***r who is happy as long as players from your own club aren't "responsible" for a defeat?

Everything wrong with the muppets that post on here is summed up in your brief effort.

And if Tomkins as you said was awful in the first and did little in the second, what exactly does that make McGuire's performance?

Tomkins is already a better player than Mcguire.

Mcguire is so £hit its laughable.